Speedster crispy chassis on ebay

I don't see $1,000 there, either. al

I see a bunch of work! Lots to take off and recondition and much to just junk!

Someone is REALLY dreaming.

YIKES! 

I think maybe he left out the decimal point between the 1st and 2nd zero.  $10.00 seems more appropriate for that.  You might get a little more as scrap.

This ad has an "item specifics" area...read this. I am dumbfounded that this would be an approved listing even in this category..."other", indeed.

hmm I fail to see any thing wrong with it other than what cmc did rong.it would be nice to have & correct the short cummings&crap they did  so it could be swaped for another crapey one, then fix that one &start a recycling chassie repare/stiffining swap out.yes it will need a god derusting&cleaning, but the heat did not hurt the steel at all, possiably a few more waves in the floor but it was cut&shortened&rewelded befor the fire.yes all gromets should be changed along with the shift bushing&joint,trailing arm bushings&stuff like that.

Wouldn't the heat have ruined any heat-treating or tempering of the steel?

what heat treating or tempering?it would more than likely just stress releave it a bit from the welding prosess.this isant a rocker arm or trans gear or crankshaft it's just mild steel tubing.no issue  at all.

Springs, torsion bars, shocks, etc.  Also, I've seem some fire damaged cars where the heat was extreme enough to cause parts to sag and deform.

I was talking about the frame, yes the shockes will be dead. I doubt it would affect the torsion bars much if any with the, encased the way they are.but it could all depend on how long&what was fueling the fire. but I dont see any frame issues from it.  But as with everything you have to be smarter that what your working with.

I don't think "spray with fire hose" is conducive to stress relieving.

I agree with Mark; it doesn't look like it burned long enough to really damage the pan or framework. It could probably be cleaned up with new seals, grommets, shocks, etc... I still don't see it being worth anywhere near $1,000 though. And he's turned down 2 offers...

Does anyone know what kit body would go with this?

It's a Classic Motor Carriages (CMC) frame (also used by FiberFab).  Takes either the classic or the California body.  I bet trying to remove bolts would be fun.  They are heat treated and will quickly snap off if rusted in.  With a title (and near by) its worth $400 at best.

Thanks!

I bet the Rusty Tubs (Georgia) fiberglass body would fit on it too.  

http://www.rustytubs.com/porsc...odies-replica-3.html

Thank you Wolfgang! I appreciate your input. As a newbee here I need it.

I am the fool who bid too much on this item and won. I've always wanted a Speedster (since Top Gun -sorry) and I can do the work. Problem is they're always in the warm climates and NOT in the east. I saw this figuring I'd get the roller going and wait for a body to show up. Don't need perfect.

He says he has a non-repairable title. Have to see what our puritan state of Mass does with that. God!

Thanks again. I appreciate your help.

Since I have a good number of speedster builds and restos (30) under my belt ( the finale build was in March) I'll toss in my .02. When in the moment of excitment we tend to do tings that end up being costly and labor intensive.What  might be reuseable is the shortened pan ...period. The 2x4 steel box frame comes bonded into what ever body you may come up ( CMC FF etc) with so the 2x4 frame has no use and is scrap, the gas tank will also be crap as you can get a new one for under $100 just about the cost to get the clapped out tank boiled out i.e. cleaned.

The toasted axle beam is rebuildable but....by the time you replace the components, that being the inner bearings, ball joints tie rod ends and seals you can purchase a rebuilt beam spindle to spindle for under $200. Regretfully your deal ( plus shipping) isn't a deal at all...maybe just re-neg on the payment and accept the negative feedback and chaulk it up to education.

Wow. Didn't know that. From the frame pictures on some of the sites I bought it to save the pan shortening and all that 2x4 framing. Didn't realize all that was built into the body. Thought all that had to be done in prep for the body. You're right. I jumped in before doing my homework. Thank you!

+1

I'll do that. Again, I appreciate all the knowledge out here. But I'm still confused (sorry) about the 2x4 frame. I keep seeing the box framing separate -that's why I went for this trying to save a step. I watched a video on Youtube where they had the shortened pan and the framing, then dropped the body in place. That's what I was hoping to do. Clean up that pan and add the components for a rolling chassis. Then wait for a rusty tubs etc. body to show up somewhere within reach. I repair racing shells so glass repair isn't an issue.

I will renegotiate the price and take my lumps but I need to understand (again, sorry for being the FNG out here) my plan of attack. We don't have a lot of these in the northeast so I'm kinda screwed unless I drop $10k+. I can weld, do all the mechanical, I just need to get a clue. I wish I could buy you all a beer.

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/cla...etail.php?id=1396648

Agree with Alan - reneg especially without a clean usable title.  The Rusty Tubs is only FG body I've seen where the under chassis is sold separate -- and they are difficult to deal with plus their body is $3995 sans needed accessories.   Fellow SOCer here in NW FL bought an IM that was under water during hurricane IVAN (?) that part of frame was nearly rusted away.  He sold the body which would have been perfect for that frame maybe 9 months ago. 

Where are you in East?  Gary Brindle (No VA/Wash DC area) had his unfinished CMC for sale awhile back (Brindleg).  

Jan 2012. Try again on selling my kit. Mostly complete CMC kit. Black gel coat need repainted or rubbed out. No cracks. Kit includes a 70 Shorted VW pan with title and new floors. Front converted to disk brakes. Include Windshield assembly, wiring harness, VW tranny, carpet set, vinyl trim pieces, 914 gauges and a pair of leather seats. Northern, VA

Send me an email if interested and I can send pictures. I'll sell for $5300.

Damn. I'm in Boston. I have a new F150 so I can travel some -not to Florida etc. but a bit. I'm a cheap Yankee so I'm game for anything. That's how I got in this mess.

I also remember one that showed up in Connecticut last year that I should have bought.

Will reneg the thing and take the hurt. It's one of those things where it's  just there and you want to act before someone else does without knowing. Again, thanks.  

A super good deal that is well along in the build process, contact Greg "Wolfgang" If I wasn't "done" building speedys, I would snag his project speedster in a heartbeat..  Ye' who hesitates is ... SOL. If you choose to go this route you can keep in touch and I will be glad to walk you through the project. ~Alan

Here's link to Gary's in No. VA - I lived near him and posted pictures for him a while back.

https://www.speedsterowners.com...ent/2135445019577705

What!?  Greg/Wolfgang is selling his Speedster.  What's the world coming to?

reading is a wonderful thing.

When I looked back over Greg's post I misread it  ( "Old timers")as the project mentioned belongs to a........ Gary Brindle (No VA/Wash DC area) had his unfinished CMC for sale a while back (Brindleg). Then again Greg does have a semi built speedy too. 

Thanks all! May be out of my price range right now (kids etc.) but I'll try to track him down.

Crispy will be back on EBay soon. Seller was kind enough to let me off the hook for my foolish move.

Talked to Gary and his is gone but I already have a pan, tranny, and front end lined up for this weekend. I'll start small. If anyone sees a non-wide body...

Thanks for all the help and also for keeping $$$ in my pocket.