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In my search for a Speedster, I found two obvious scams. I hope the pictures aren't of any SOC forum member's rides.

 

 

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This black CMC widebody is a work of art inside and out. Asking price of $3000. I found the original classified from New Mexico, which shows it sold last year for less that $20G ... that was a legitimate steal of a deal.

 

Link to the real classified ...

 

http://car-from-uk.com/sale.ph...47673&country=us

 

Just for fun I communicated with its latest "seller". I wonder how many people have received this reply for lord knows how many cars he has for sale.

 

 

Hello again  ,

Thank you for still being interested in buying my
car
,I will respond your inquires, but first let me explain you how the whole process for this transaction will work:

I'm really sorry for you but i think is to late for inspection because I'm  not in the city for the moment (like you know i just finished the  divorce with my husband and i have moved to my parents home inPittsburgh - Pennsylvaniafor a while.) probably you saw it in another state because i used more states to find quickly a buyer , shipping is free anywhere in United States

I want to tell you that we will use Google Wallet in this  transaction in order for both of us to be 100% protected and insured by  them, Google Wallet will supervise over our transaction. They  will take care of the shipping (Thecar is already at the shipping company in with all papers and documents ready  to be shipped) and all the small details. You will get thecar and you will have 15 calendar days return-policy in which you can decide if you will buy thecar or not. In the inspection period you can test thecar, go with thecar at your local mechanic for inspection.After your inspection period (15 calendar days) In case you won't like thecar( not your case )  you will notify Google Wallet and you will send thecar back on my expense, if you want to keep it you will also announce Google  Wallet , you will send the funds ( payment method and all the  details will be set up by Google Wallet ) and you will keep thecar.Please get back to me with your FULL NAME & FULL ADDRESS and PHONE NUMBER so i can forward your details to Google Wallet in order for you to receive your purchase invoice and if you will agree with what will find in the invoice will go from there.

Google Wallet will  contact you with an invoice and they will explain you how to start this  transaction all the details and instructions for this transaction will  be found in the invoice and you will see this transaction is legit. If  you will disagree with the transaction proposed by Google Wallet , you can simply refuse to continue with the transaction and would be  no problem, I still have a few offers left.

PS : Don't forget to send me your  Full Name, Address and Phone Number if you are really interested in thiscar.
And also I will need them for further collaboration regarding the transaction and better explanation of the whole process!
Thank you for all and if you have other questions please reply to my email.

 

 

 

 And this red beauty is going for $3500. Take care when buying folks.

 

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John

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Originally Posted by WOLFGANG - '13 CMC FWB, FL:

Not even sure who you go to to report such scams.  Banks don't seem to want to follow up even on credit card scams - guess it isn't their $ lost.  Other than Marvel Shield who do you go to?

The the exact opposite has been my experience, Greg.

 

Yesterday, I was contacted by the fraud dept. of one of my cards-- they spotted what appeared to them to be fraud on my card, and they were asking me about recent transactions. I don't EVER answer questions of this sort if somebody calls me, so I called the card company number on the back of the card and talked with the fraud department. They noticed transactions this weekend in St. Louis (where I was), and in Chicago (where I wasn't). The card was locked down, and I'm not liable for any of the fraudulent charges. A new card is coming express shipping.

 

The thing is, this is maybe the 4th time in the last two years this has happened with one card or another. I've never yet been liable for the charges, and have never yet had to spot the fraud on my statement. For somebody stealing the keys to the kingdom (as it were), the whole thing has been pretty routine and easily corrected (so far).

 

This card was a Capital One Quicksilver (gives me 1.5% back on everything, no fees, 30 days to pay, no foreign transaction costs), but Chase and BoA hacve all been great as well.

 

So, I guess I've been fortunate, or perhaps you just need to get a different card.

From my experience, this scam isn't about selling replicas or anything else.  It's about collecting information, which is then sold.  That's why they want your name, address, and phone number.  They receive the info at little cost, then package and sell it to the marketers that confront consumers on a daily basis.

 

Offshore businesses are inundated with these bogus requests for info, usually from fairly illiterate cons, who only seem to have English as a second language skills.  We all know the old saying: "If they would only put that amount of effort into a legitimate business venture . . ." Nigeria, Liberia, Russia, and other Eastern bloc countries seem to be the world leaders.

 

My debit card company blocks my debit card about 6 or 7 times/year.  I then have to telephone a VISA employee in the US, who does his/her best to re-activate the card, apologizing profusely for the inconvenience.  When I would ask the person what activity was deemed suspicious, they could never tell me.  They would just repeat the mantra that it's for my own good, they're really looking after me.  

 

I think a computer programmer has written a line of code that automatically blocks a card from further use when a certain activity happens: too high a purchase amount, too many purchases in a certain time period, activity different than the norm for this card, etc.  Too bad none of the humans have the knowledge to explain the actual cause to the consumer.  

 

The skeptic in me doesn't believe for one minute that they're looking out for my interests.  They're looking out for the bottom line.  Consumer protection laws in the US, both federal and state, force the credit/debit card companies to protect the consumer in most cases.  THAT'S why they block my card to check on "suspicious" activity.  They're worried, alright, but not about me.  

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Jim-

 

Same deal for me (routine "blocks", which are sometimes a nuisance). Deep down, I don't mind 'em, although it's irritating at the time. I'm just amazed that every 6 months or so, somebody is able to buy gas in Dallas, or groceries in Walla Walla with my card(s), and it's never a problem for me (aside from the nuisance of waiting for a new card).

 

Whatever algorithm the card companies are using seems to work pretty well. It spots fraud, but allowed me to drive a speedster all across the US (with all the attendant purchases) without ever shutting me down. It's stopped blocking purchased when I go to Mexico in the winter (they apparently know my vacation habits now).

 

As for the scam, they amaze me. That's a bunch of work for not a lot of return. People with enough time/intelligence to try this could surely make better money in legitimate pursuits. 

Yep on alla that. But don't forget: most credit card fraud these days is done on a mass scale. It's usually not one meth head buying Twinkies and cold medicine at a C-Mart. It's a Russian or Belarusian hacker hoovering up 19.2 million card transactions out of Target and selling the data that minute. Then the card numbers get worked by new crooks, and so on until there's that meth head with your number in Texas. 

 

It's kind of a big deal.

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