Is anyone coming to Carlisle who has a fire suppression system installed in their car?  I'd like to see if we could set up a seminar sometime Saturday.  Shouldn't be alot of work on your part, just show and tell to whoever is interested  - what you installed, what it took and the cost.   Would be great is we could get a few cars for the seminar.  After seeing Pepspeed's burned Speedster over in the Technical section I think there would be alot of interest.  

Syl Mathis has a fire bottle system in Candy that I installed. I purchased it unused -used off of eBay and did a simple plumb job to the engine bay....does it work? ..who knows:~)

I honestly/obviously hope that I never have to use the FireBottle system that Al installed. I will be at Carlisle and you can see the setup. Maybe Al will do a seminar.

Bruce, don't know about a seminar, they are pretty simple. But I will leave mine open for inspection, bottle, pull handle, and nozzles. The hardest part is hiding the tubing. It is easy to install the fittings with the provided compression ferrules.

Always liked that white wide body. Would love to know more about the fire suppression system.

I assume it's akin to this one: http://autoplicity.com/971193-...Po-sMCFQ4dgQoder4A_Q

I feel like it's almost time to start talking about tee shirts. When do we start talkin about shirts?

Danny,

 

It doesn't really have to be a formal seminar but I would like to set a time when the owners of the cars with the suppression systems are at their cars to explain their systems.  We might even try to get all of these cars in one spot at that time, make it easier for people to know which ones and be able to ask questions.   

Perhaps the parking lots could be segregated by fire suppression cars and sans-fire suppreaion cars indicating who has the most sense 

Now I'm sorry that I'm not bringing Natalie so that I can flaunt her Halon unit in the rear and Blaze cut unit up front :-)

Tom, maybe Cory could flat bed it out on the back of his fire truck for you. It would make for an interesting display.

The Blaze Cut seems like it's a good inexpensive option but I don't love that it's held in place with zip ties. Is the Blaze cut UL certified?

 

 

It's ABC rated. You can attach it with clamps, if you like. Sure beats nothing.

> On Feb 24, 2015, at 2:33 PM, SpeedsterOwners.com <alerts@hoop.la> wrote:
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Tom may be right that the Blaze Cut is better than nothing.  However, for any extinguisher to be rated, that rating must come from the Underwriters Laboratory (UL).  Blaze Cut has never submitted its product for testing, since an extinguishing device in a personal car is not legally required.

 

I don't know how well Blaze Cut functions.  Unfortunately, neither does anyone who buys it.  My hope is that buyers aren't relying on a device that doesn't function as promised.  If it does function as promised, why not submit it for testing, just like all the US-made products do?

 

Yep, it has a market niche, since it's easy to install and inexpensive.  I have learned the hard way that some products are so important that price point is subsumed by effectiveness: does my extinguisher do what it purports to do?  Does my insurance cover me completely in event of loss?

 

I have no ax to grind with Blaze Cut.  I just think that, when more effective options exist, a buyer should shop with care.  Caveat emptor.   

I have the Safecraft Halon unit in the rear and am adding the Blaze Cut up front.  My fuel pump sits it a metal tray under the fuel tank. 

The combination of fuel, a place to pool, and electricity sitting directly below my fuel tank makes me nervous. 

However, I don't feel like shelling out another $500 +  for another system. 

Danny's mutiple nossle system might be the best overall.

I'm wondering why Frazer didn't post his "start a separate discussion" suggestion here too?

 

I too want to learn about fire supression systems. But perhaps we return to our regular subject...which is Carlisle 2015?

 

Just sayin'

Jim Kelly,

I am in agreement with you on the "Listing" of any device, or product for that matter by UL.

Everyone speaks of UL "approval"; they actually approve NOTHING.  They do test to certain standard (NEC, ASTM, etc.) which then communicates to consumer that if it has the UL "LISTING" it passed a given established standard for that product category.

The other thing is that CSA (Canada) and CE (Europe) always have worked together with UL to keep somewhat similar standards to test to (please note word "similar", not exact).

I spent 8 years in elec. industry (Ideal Industries, Inc.) and UL,CSA,CE were a must if you expect to garner market share and consumer/trade confidence.

A device such as "Blaze Cut" would have tremendous benefit by having a UL listing showing that it meets certain ratings for it's purpose.

My Auto class.: 10-B-C Dry Chemical extinwisher has a rating completely different than my Kitchen Class.: 10.

Auto says tested to: ANSI/UL 711, 299

Kitchen says tested to:  ANSI/UL 299l subject 299D and UL subject 711A.

Obviously both dry chem but designed to fight two different potential sources:

elecetrical/fuel in auto; grease/natural gas on kitchen.

Not a Pro at this like you Jim, but again in agreement that it has to meet certain standards for it's purpose. 

Guys,

 

This is becoming a hot topic but we're drifting a bit from Carlisle attendance and events so I'm going to start a new thread under "Events" called "Carlisle Fire Suppression Systems Seminar and Related Discussion".  So far it's been alot of good conversation so let's move it over there and keep it going. Thanks.

 

ECB

RSVP's received to-date:

 

Joel and Barbara Abraham - New Jersey

Lane Anderson, South Carolina

Bill Ascheman - Pennsylvania

David and Carol Bayne - Pennsylvania

Tom Blankinship - Michigan

Jeff and Mary Cahoon - Connecticut

Bob and Mary Carley - Ontario Canada

Allen and Linda Caron – Georgia

Leon Chupp - Georgia

Darcie and Steve Clark - North Carolina

Jack and Alice Crosby – Arkansas

Wild Bill and Joannie Drayer - Pennsylvania

Vicenc Feliu and Charlene - Pennsylvania

Ed Ericson Jr and Karen – Maryland

Ron and Dina Fish - New York

Kelly Frazer - Maryland

Al and Heidi Gallo - Massachusetts

Bernard and Rose Ann Greig – Illinois

Steve and Shiela Hayward - New York

John "Hoss" Hallstrand - Tennessee

Roy Hendrix - North Carolina

Paul Holden and Glenn McCoy – Maryland

Michael and Jian Ping McKelvey – Michigan

Tom Lorenzo and Dennis Crawford - Florida

Rick and Michelle Milczanowski - Connecticut

Paul Mossberg – Pennsylvania

Ron and Maddie Mullis – Georgia

Rick Nelson and Brenda - Pennsylvania

Danny Piperato - New York

Tom and Jami Rahn – Florida

Craig Reddick - New Jersey

Nolan Scott – Tennessee

Allan Shapiro - Missouri

David and Francine Stroud - Ontario, Canada

Bruce and Norma Stumpp - Maryland

Michael Warjas and Dianne - North Carolina

 

C'mon guys and girls, if you're joining us in Carlisle send in your RSVP so we can plan for everyone.  And don't forget to make your hotel reservations (check out  hotel thread) - we have the entire hotel reserved but the rooms are going fast.

Forget that snow and cold outside, it'll be warm and beautiful in May. 

75 days to Carlisle and counting!

I have the same Halon system Tom B. has and plan to be there.

MIchael,

 

Great, I'll add you to the list and good to hear you're coming to Carlisle. 

I previously RSVPed and am already on your list.

 

I was just responding to the fire suppression seminar proposal.

Yup, understand. Received your RSVP and have you on the list for the Fire Suppression System "seminar".  Thanks.

RSVP received from: 

 

Pete Schumann - Virginia

 

Thanks Pete!

Carlisle testimonial by Jack Crosby, Arkansas: 

 

"I plan my year around two events;  Bluegrass in Mountain View, AR and Carlisle---and NOT in that order.  I plug the events into my calendar and whatever else pops up and tries to stop me gets moved around or missed.

 

Carlisle is the best of what someone can spend time doing; Caravanning with great people with a shared interest and having two dinners and two lunches together along the way, A thrilling arrival at the Marriott with 12-15 Speedsters and Spyders, gabbing in the parking lot over three days, catching up with SOC friends, group dinners for 75-100 knuckleheads, egg sammiches at the fairgrounds, various seminars - some by our own, seeing 50 Speedsters/Spyders all parked at the fairgrounds, watching Danny beat the clock on the track, a zillion parts, cleaning supplies and tools for sale at the vendor tents, great car bargains in the cars for sale lot, manufacturer's displays, greeting the makers of "our" cars, learning new ways to improve the cars (not the unobtaninum ones that don't need improving), The raffle, the bull sessions late into the night and even the drive back home.

 

And a L-O-T more. 

 

I can't imagine what other activity could possibly provide so much interest as the annual Carlisle event."

 

 

 

Jack,

Great explanation about the SOC Carlisle experience-i couldn't sum it up any better.Looking forward to our 4th year with the group. Tub has been stuck in the garage for a month due to snow-its coming down now -will have to snowblow later today.

Joel 

Doc, Looking forward to seeing you at Carlisle!

Please keep me in mind if anyone has an empty right seat for Thursday night and Friday.

...makes me want to make the drive.

Then do it, Rusty!  By then the snow should have almost melted.

Wowsa! Did Jim really do this?

 

Yes! Yes! And then with so many of us we can begin to tilt the United States toward California. We need the water!

Tom, there will be plenty of right seats -- not to worry.  I should have one.

Actually, Rusty, Jim flew in every year.  We'll even accept you arriving that way.

 

Seriously consider coming.

Sorry guys, some idiot (me) scheduled a wedding party that weekend.  It was fun last year.  Will try again next year if I still have the old IM or (something else).

Rowan

RSVP received from: 

 

Cory and Jeni Drake - Maryland

 

Thanks Cory!

RSVP received from: 

 

Rich Drewek - Wisconsin

 

Thanks Rich!