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Or winding your shirt up in a moving drill.  (Ouch!)

Or knowing enough to hold a cold chisel with a pair of Vice Grips so you don't hit your hand, but abandoning that thought to save time and then.....   Hitting your hand with the hammer, full force.   (Ouch!)

Or holding a piece with your knee while angle-grinding it, having the grinder slip and hit your knee, going through both your Levis and your flesh.   (Ouch!)

Or welding two pieces together and then forgetting how really hot a fresh weld can be.  (Ouch, Ouch!!)

I could go on.......  But it's not pretty.  Let's not even talk about things under tension.

If my scars could talk.

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Oh, WAIT!  

And my favorite was when my brother and I were trying to remove the rear dual wheels from a school bus after those big lug nuts were rusted on over the winter from the salt.  

We were using a 1" drive, 36" long bat handle with an 8 foot piece of heavy black iron pipe on it increasing the leverage by a lot and turning a 2-1/4" Craftsman (non-impact) socket that simply wouldn't budge.  My brother hangs from the side window of the bus, gets up on the pipe like a tightrope walker and starts bouncing on the pipe, up and down over a foot, to start the nut.

Suddenly I hear this "BANG!!" as the socket explodes, the pipe instantly drops about three feet and my brother lands on the floor in a heap, the lug nut still sitting there, unmoved, but laughing at us.  Took him a couple of weeks before his butt stopped aching.

I left out a lot of that when I went to Sears to get a replacement 2-1/4" socket, but the retired guy who was working the tool dept. part-time did ask how the heck we broke it.  I had to 'fess up so he took back the socket I had brought to the counter and brought back an impact-grade one instead.   "Here", he said, "Go try to break THIS one!"

We ended up heating the pi$$ out of the nut before we tried that again......

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Great stories.  But this one nearly caused death.  High school days, my buddy called me to help him replace the drive shaft that was shot on his old Plymouth. I rode my bike over and up his driveway. He was under the car and could barely talk. A big dude a 6'4" and built for football, it was a tight squeeze for him under the car. He raised it up a little more with wood scraps. Not milled lumber but firewood logs!  Of course, it rolled of the logs and onto him. As he tried to gasp the words, "a little help here Jim?", I ran around trying to find the jack. The car resting it's weight on his chest and him doing the occasional bench press to get a breath... The jack was in the trunk and I had to climb up into it adding to the weight. I got it off him and as he slid out, he was actually laughing!!! His nickname is, "the rookie!"   We still laugh about that one. ;-) 

The stupidity of youth.

When I was 17 my friends and I somehow ended up in a quarry around Huntington Beach/Seal Beach area one lovely May afternoon. It was about a 30 ft. drop into, at best, murky water from the edge where we stood.

Some moron  among us suggested that "a friend" had jumped from the spot we were standing into the water and then swam across and crawled up the other side to get out. The same moron suggested to the rest of us luddites that failing to duplicate the actions of his "friend" called all our manhoods into question.

Not being too bright, and unable to stand any challenge to my "macho" persona, I leaped off the side. The first 32 ft. of drop were fine, at 33 ft. I encountered the windshield of the sunken Dodge.

I still have the scars on my legs. Fortunately I didn't dive, or end up with some nasty infection.

Oddly, no one followed in my tracks.

 

 

Stupid is stupid does... "This is the Double Dog Dare Ya" bridge in New Jersey. It is about 70 - 80 ' depending on the water level below.  At 15, I jumped this twice , one hand grasping my "trunks" and the other held high in the air ... " Oh Lord Please Help Me "   However my top event in life at 40, was riding down the Olympic Bob Sled Run twice in Innsbruck, Austria... The Beer Gods were a factor and I have a parchment certificate certifying my stupidity. 

 

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What the hell IS it with old Quarries?

Milford, Massachusetts is a town about 30 miles from Boston and once had a bustling granite rock quarry that supplied a lot of stone for buildings in and around Boston. It was closed in the 1940's and eventually got flooded with water.  I used to go swimming/diving in it from time to time when I was a kid, along with many others (it is now closed and the site of a small mall, including a Lowes).

It had been rumored for years that the Mafia had killed a bunch of people over time and dumped them, car and all, into that quarry. Finally, about 15 years ago someone contracted with the state of Massachusetts to see if there was anything at the bottom, under 60 - 80 feet of water. They brought up 9 different cars and solved 8 different missing person/murders!

God knows, maybe even some of the Soprano hits were down there.....  No, they didn't find Jimmie Hoffa.  I think he's part of the MeadowLands.    gn

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Had a early '60's Rambler once and it was cool to jack it up and flip the rear spring shackles upside down to raise the rear end. The springs didn't like it though and one broke. It was mid week and no time to get to the junk yard for another but still needed to get back and forth to school so we installed a suitable sized birch log between the frame and axle for a few days and drove slowly and not far from home.

Third day the car stopped for lack of gas in the carb. I knew I had plenty in the tank so off we went to the only 24 hour auto parts place in town and got a new fuel pump and installed it. No joy there so we went back and exchanged the new pump for another. Still no joy. Full refund each time and I finally got my original pump back with a 10% charge. Called in a buddy...Pete " slack nuts" Van Veen for a looksee. Turned out the log had moved a bit and pinched the fuel line. 

I don't jump off high things. Even hate ladders. 

Gordon Nichols posted:

 

I left out a lot of that when I went to Sears to get a replacement 2-1/4" socket, but the retired guy who was working the tool dept. part-time did ask how the heck we broke it.

Broke a Craftsman 3/4" breaker bar using a cheater to remove a VW flywheel nut.  The Sears guy just said, "Go get one".  I was so relieved because I felt like I had done something wrong.

David Stroud posted:

Had a early '60's Rambler once and it was cool to jack it up and flip the rear spring shackles upside down to raise the rear end. The springs didn't like it though and one broke. It was mid week and no time to get to the junk yard for another but still needed to get back and forth to school so we installed a suitable sized birch log between the frame and axle for a few days and drove slowly and not far from home.

Third day the car stopped for lack of gas in the carb. I knew I had plenty in the tank so off we went to the only 24 hour auto parts place in town and got a new fuel pump and installed it. No joy there so we went back and exchanged the new pump for another. Still no joy. Full refund each time and I finally got my original pump back with a 10% charge. Called in a buddy...Pete " slack nuts" Van Veen for a looksee. Turned out the log had moved a bit and pinched the fuel line. 

I don't jump off high things. Even hate ladders. 

I'm pretty sure I mentioned this before but I had to do something similar a number of years ago. I did Wilderness Search and Rescue for 16 years with the agency for which I work. We had guys in the back country looking for a lost hiker and we set up an LZ for our helicopter at a remote lake. The road back to the lake was over 20 miles, single car wide, and nothing but hard packed dirt. In many places there was no shoulder and a drop-off that would scare most people. Our second flight team was pulling a 100 gallon load of Jet A fuel on a small trailer and about 5 miles or so from the LZ the leaf spring broke on the trailer. Another deputy and I rigged up a solid leaf spring with a 4x4 piece of wood and a whole lot of nylon webbing. Made it to the LZ without any trouble and we made sure we emptied the jet fuel trailer before we headed home. We used most of the fuel during the mission and put the rest in our F450 diesel. We were trying our best to avoid serious problems if anything went wrong.

Tales of youth and stupidity are part and parcel to the old guy repertoire. Tales of near-calamity and stupidity in adulthood are the provenance of a very few honest idiots.

For your dinner and dining enjoyment, a tale of extreme personal stupidity (one of many such admissions), originally posted in Dec, 2017:

Stan Galat posted:

True story:

So, I was a first year apprentice-- but I was 26, had 3 kids, and was learning fast.

My company had a contract for the HVAC maintenance on the buildings "outside the fence" at a nuclear plant about 1 hr from my front door. The gig was 5 days/wk, on-site every day, on call on the weekends/holidays. They sent me because I was bright, cheap, and hard-charging... or in steamfitter parlance, "young, dumb, and full of cum".

I was the only guy from my company at the plant, but I had access to a payphone, and my Rolodex and ability to use it was growing daily. The first day I got there, I opened a panel on a 300 ton chiller, and the electrical diagram covered both doors-- about 9 ft high, and 3 ft wide (x2), and printed in maybe #4 font. The equipment was huge, but I was too cocky to be intimidated and I had however long it might take to figure any problem out. It was perfect. I learned quickly. There were 4 people counting on me as the sole means of support, and if I was ever going to make more than $10/hr, I needed to learn and make this thing work.

After I'd been down there by myself for about 9 months, I was getting bored. As bored young men are wont to do, I starting to take some risks to see just how good I was. I was at that tipping point when I knew just enough to be dangerous. Everything was coming fast, and I felt invincible and constrained.

So one bright fall day, I was installing condenser fan speed controllers on A/C units on the main office roof, to allow them to run in low ambient conditions. I got to the main computer room RTU on Thursday, just as they were running payroll.

Knowing what I know now, I'd just move on to the next one, or call it a day. But not then. In 1989, I was young, energetic, and on a mission. I would install that control today-- one way or another. In a fateful bit of hubris, I decided to do it "hot"-- without shutting the unit down, since the unit needed to run to cool the computers, which were cranked up to run the payroll.

Everything was going along swimmingly, until I was snaking a control wire through the back of the panel, and I reached in to grab it. My hand brushed across the compressor contactor, and I tied onto 480v of nice, clean 60 hz power.

Electricity freaks people out, but the thing to remember is-- it's always looking for a ground. The higher the voltage, the harder it looks. Now, your fat fingers are typically a pretty good insulator, and generate a lot of resistance to conductivity. That's why 12 vdc won't even give you a tingle-- there's not enough potential to overcome the resistance in your body to find a ground.

110v will give you a buzz, but it really won't kill you unless you were on your way out anyhow. 480v is not household current. 480v does some pretty funky stuff. 480v can just across carbon-tracking to short to ground. 480v can jump a gap in the right conditions. It really, really wants to find a ground. Your pink parts (and mine on that fine day in 1989) have enough conductivity to create something of a path to ground.

The effect of brushing that contactor was instantaneous. The path to ground was up one arm, across my chest, and down the other arm... which was conveniently grabbing onto a pipe-- a good, solid ground. The physiological effect of becoming a (poor) wire is that all of the muscles that rely on little milli-volt electrical signals to do their thing, instantly constrict. The net effect is that your body puts a death-grip (you see what I did there?) on whatever you are holding, so that you become attached and cannot let go. It's also worth noting that my heart was in the current path, and very likely stopped beating as soon as the current started flowing.

Also worth noting as an aside is that with electricity, current flow through resistance creates heat. That's how an electric heater works. I've explained that the human body is a poor conductor, which means it has a fair amount of resistance. When current starts flowing through that resistor, it creates some heat-- actually, and from experience, a lot of heat. So the way electrocution works is that the power grabs you, constricts your muscles so you can't let go, then cooks you, often from the inside out.

Anyhow, I tied onto this 480 while sitting on a 5-gal bucket with tools in it. My heart stopped beating, but everything else was working just fine. I could feel the 60-cycle buzz in both arms and across my chest. After a few seconds, I could smell my right hand burning. It sounds ridiculous, but my life flashed before me. All of it. I wondered if I'd trip the breaker before I burned into a pile of smoking charcoal. I looked at the clouds and wondered if it would rain in the morning. I saw each of the faces of my kids, and wondered who they'd turn out to be. I opined that this was a really stupid way to die. I was glad I'd purchased life insurance.

But there was a part of me that was fighting like mad to live.

Somehow, I stood up, and began to lever my forearms against the top of the unit. My forearms became a shorter path to ground, so I suppose my grip was loosened a bit, but I couldn't tell any difference. After maybe 10 seconds of being "on", I pried my hands off the ground (and the power) by using the top of the unit as a fulcrum, and my shoulders as the power-point. I was able to break my grip on the pipe that was grounding me

... and just like that I was off, laying on the roof, not bleeding because the chunks of my hand that had been burned away were cauterized. I thought about putting the panel back on the unit, but I didn't. I climbed down my ladder, and walked over to the first-aid station.

At that point the medical team went into full-on 911/idiot-on-the-loose mode. They loaded me into an ambulance, and drove me an hour to the hospital closest to me (I insisted they take me there, so my wife wouldn't need to drive). They insisted on keeping me overnight, but I checked myself out the next day.

I never had to go back to the plant. The entire workforce of the facility (I mean every last man-- probably 3000 of them) went through 2-days of "electrical safety training". A co-worked finished installing the speed-controller. I went back to work after agitating that I didn't want to sit around, and that I needed the paycheck.

I went on to other things. Clinton Nuclear Power Plant continued to generate nice, clean 60 HZ electricity

... but I can claim, that like the above meme-- I was most definitely the reason for the company safety video. Just call me "Safety Stan".

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Wow!  Nice recall of the events. Safety training is my gig and I do the electrical safety training for many companies.  The first questions I ask prior to introducing myself are, "How many of you work with electricity?"  Hands proudly go up throughout the room.  Then, How many have experienced a 240V or above electric shock?  The same number of hands go up. And a few guys have smirks on their face... My next question, "How many enjoyed that experience?"  And, nobody raises their hand. Then we go into the effects and results that you described perfectly!  Can I copy an use your description of the root cause of the accident with out your screen name or identity?  It was very well written! (If you were an older gentleman at the time of that accident, you might not be here to tell the story. Age has a huge effect on surviving electrical shock!)

Jim

Alan Merklin posted:

I'll save my "How I blew up the front yard" story for Carlisle :~)

I’d bet a gasoline tank was involved. 

When I was a kid, we lived in the country and had no regular garbage pickup. Everybody (at that time) who lived outside town just burned their trash in a 55 gallon drum (sitting on bricks, with the top and bottom cut off), situated somewhere downwind of the house. Ours was about 30 ft from the side door of the attached garage.

I was 12 or 13 years old, and one of my household chores was to burn trash. Often, the weather or the trash itself conspired to make it a task that taxed the limits of my extremely finite patience.

On one such day, both the sogginess of the trash and the windy weather kept me from getting a decent flame, even using a propane torch. I really wanted to go do something else, so I went in the garage and procured a full 5 gallon can of gasoline. I began pouring gas directly from the can onto the trash. 

My pubescent understanding of the combustibility of gasoline fumes was somewhat murky, but in hindsight I can see quite clearly that I was creating a nearly perfect bomb.

The trash was in the barrel smoldering somewhere, while the liquid gasoline pouring on the top boiled into a nice, combustible vapor. When that vapor made its way to one of the embers, the entire thing lit all at once with him mighty “fa-woof”.

The worst part was that when it lit, I was still standing over the trash pouring a nice stream of gasoline into the barrel. The explosion threw me back, and the gas-can out of my hands, behind me, and up towards the house.

The flame had followed the stream of gas into the can, which now had a couple of gallons left inside and was laying about 5 ft from the house. It was at that moment that I thanked God Almighty that dad had bricked the first floor.

Somehow, the can never blew, but I was freaking out that I was going to light the house on fire as the can lay there, blazing away 5 ft from the brick. Still not understanding what exactly had happened (or indeed, what was happening), I did something even more colossally stupid. I ran over to the can and kicked it away from the house toward the yard.

... and there it lay, burning away, flames going about 15 ft in the air.  The barrel had split, the yard had caught fire, and there was about 10 feet of mom’s flower bed up by the house completely scorched. I ran around the house, got a garden hose, hooked it up, and began spraying down what was left of the grass. 

Mom was not proud.

Just call me “Safety Stan”.

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Years ago I was working for Livingston Grayham Concrete transit Co. I was doing a complete brake job on all 3 axles. I put all the components on a big "flat car" with an expanded meta bottom in it and rolled everything out to the steam cleaner rack to clean everything. I decided that I would lower the entire load down into the Hot Tank first. Including the flat car. This hot tank was 4 ft X 8 ft X 6 ft deep, filled with boiling water and caustic soda. When I went to remove the stuff, the flat car got jammed up so I climbed up on the edge of the tank and stomped on the flat car to "break it loose"! Well it did and I fell. One foot went in the hot caustic soda, my nuts hit the rim of the tank and I fell....fortunately, to the outside of the hot tank and down on the floor.

My foot was boiling inside my hightop workshoe. Within two strides I was up and jumped into a 55 gal barrel full of cold water used to supply the steam cleaner.

About this time the Shop Foreman walked in and saw me standing ass deep in a barrel of water holding my nuts...... I honestly couldn't think of anything to say and neither could he. He asked me if I was OK and I said yes. He turned and walked away. Later I told him what happened. Obviously I had big blisters all around my ankle and limped around for a few days. Considering that I could have totally fell in that hot tank and been boiled alive, I think I got off with one hell of a lesson. My total thoughtlessness could have been my demise in a terrifying and brutal way. Many times I have recalled that incident ! Most, (if not all) "accidents" are caused by an unsafe condition or an unsafe act in my opinion.....................Bruce

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