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As I continue to put my Speedie together, I'm playing with the suspension both front and rear. The steering box that I have from the donor '75 Beetle has a travel of about 2.75 turns from lock to lock and travels about 5.25 inches from LtL. I would like to add any reasonable improvement and thought rack and pinion would be an upgrade. I've heard of builders using the system from early VW Rabbit, and since I couldn't find one to play with, without buying one, I have a rack from a '93 Jetta. It's longer from tie rod to tie rod, but has the same travel ( 5.25 inches ). I can shorten the tie rods to match the ball joint front suspension but I discovered that the turns are different. The Jetta takes almost 3.75 turns L t L.
I've tried to find information on line to get the details about the old Rabbit but can only find sales info and replacement parts. No site gives the turn and travel details. There are some threads here at SOC and at Samba, but no detail about the travel of the Rabbit unit. There is also the question of position of the rack so as not to alter the Ackerman ratio, so that the tight turning ratio is retained from the stock unit. I assume that if the unit is placed in the same relative position as the stock unit, you will approximate the wheel position in tight turns. I have looked at the off-road units advertised and find that some use a really tight ratio, some having a LtL of only 1.5 turns and all are sold for off-road use only. I will appreciate any experience of other builders and tolerate the critism if delivered with humor. (By the way, this is a "Street Beast" using a frame based unit with lots of space since it won't take a stock fuel tank without some drastic alterations.)
1956 Street Beasts(Speedster)
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As I continue to put my Speedie together, I'm playing with the suspension both front and rear. The steering box that I have from the donor '75 Beetle has a travel of about 2.75 turns from lock to lock and travels about 5.25 inches from LtL. I would like to add any reasonable improvement and thought rack and pinion would be an upgrade. I've heard of builders using the system from early VW Rabbit, and since I couldn't find one to play with, without buying one, I have a rack from a '93 Jetta. It's longer from tie rod to tie rod, but has the same travel ( 5.25 inches ). I can shorten the tie rods to match the ball joint front suspension but I discovered that the turns are different. The Jetta takes almost 3.75 turns L t L.
I've tried to find information on line to get the details about the old Rabbit but can only find sales info and replacement parts. No site gives the turn and travel details. There are some threads here at SOC and at Samba, but no detail about the travel of the Rabbit unit. There is also the question of position of the rack so as not to alter the Ackerman ratio, so that the tight turning ratio is retained from the stock unit. I assume that if the unit is placed in the same relative position as the stock unit, you will approximate the wheel position in tight turns. I have looked at the off-road units advertised and find that some use a really tight ratio, some having a LtL of only 1.5 turns and all are sold for off-road use only. I will appreciate any experience of other builders and tolerate the critism if delivered with humor. (By the way, this is a "Street Beast" using a frame based unit with lots of space since it won't take a stock fuel tank without some drastic alterations.)
Just a thought or two, about all I can spare, really.

Stay away from any quick-steer kit; it'll put you in the ditch! They are great for negotiating off-road hazards but you'll kill yourself on the highway, especially with such a light car, fast car.

I think that once you get the caster shims installed, the rack that you have will work wonderfully. The ease and precision of the rack and pinion will be terrific for overcoming the increased caster at slow speeds, and the additional movement will be a pleasure, and increase the sense of control, at speed.

These front ends can get very light when the air cuts beneath them, you don't want the steering to be too quick, 'cause it'll get twitchy really fast and, with the rear engine, if you lift your foot to correct it, you'll get in a big mess.

Honestly, it takes a lot of seat time to get a rear engine ride out of trouble. The rack that you already have will be a plus if you set up the rest of the suspension and drive train correctly.

Luck.

TC
TC is right!

My dune buggy had the quick steer plate and I removed it. to squirrely!

I have a question , I need a 78 superbeetle rack to but in my 72 super as a upgrade . In my opinion that would be the best rack for both applications. because it works with eather spindle and the two cars have the same track weight.

BUT! Where do you get a new or rebuilt one?
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