Strange Electrical Issue affecting Gauges (CONT.)

Just two wires going to it, not three?  There are three terminals, so is one unused?  Some Directional flashers have only two wires because inside of them is a thermo-electric switch that cycles on and off repeatedly once power (or a ground) is applied

Other than that, dunno.   🤷‍♂️

I would be tempted to jumper the green and white wires to see what happens.

The actual signal flasher which is round has three wires and it is clearly marked as a signal Flasher, but this rectangular thing in the photo only has two wires but no indication as to what it is or any identifying numbers, letters, nada...

Could be a fan relay or headlight relay

@Jimmy V. posted:

Could be a fan relay or headlight relay

If so both the headlights and the fan are working fine. I'll take it to my local VW parts place, they may be able to tel me what it is. Other than that I have no inkling of what this is...thanks for your feedback.

Relay for the wipers?  If your wiper assembly doesn't have something on it that looks like your mystery piece then that's it (I think).

Unplug the wires and see if anything stops working.

@Dutch, the things in your dash are not sensors.  They are gauges.  Sensors are installed at the engine.

It's a relay - maybe for driving or fog lights.  Steel case would be ground - on a steel car.

Yes you and Wolfgang nailed it it is a relay I’m just not sure what it actually is connected to but I purchased a new one and will install it. Still chasing down some grounds and hope to get this taken care of soon. Thanks for all your help

SUCCESS!!!

Well, after a flood of great support from fellow speedy owners, I have the Black Mamba back on the road!!! A hearfelt thanks to all of you for your phenominal feedback and input. We have so many supporters in this group with a varaiety of experience and time in grade, with their help there is no issue is too tough to overcome. No one but us speedy & spider owners in this group know what it's like to be bitten by the MADNESS, aahhh, and the wind in your hair... The Black Mamba smiles again and she is anxious to put the bite on the road!

@Michael McKelvey posted:

@Dutch, the things in your dash are not sensors.  They are gauges.  Sensors are installed at the engine.

You and Wolfgang hit it on the nose , that item was a relay (probably for the headlights and I was actually able to find a replacement unit. After replacing this item as well as the signal flasher and emergency flasher, everything is working as it should!Thanks!

Great to hear it's up and running again, @Dutch!  How about a pic or 2 of that bad boy so we can see the wheels and it's stance?

I will take it for a spin today and shoot some pics to send later!

@Dutch Exactly what was the electrical issue?

@DannyP posted:

@Dutch Exactly what was the electrical issue?

Dutch made a post for the problem and a second post after trying a few things. I took this from his first post:

"I noticed first that when I turn on my ignition switch it no longer activates my gauges either in Accessory mode or in pre-ignition mode. The starter mode does start the engine but even with motor running NO gauges come up. Once I start driving and the engine warms up all of a sudden all gauges come up and work??? Also I noticed that when I use the turn signal (left and right) it seems to affect the gauges i.e. the speedo goes down to zero and none of the turn signals work....I tried a new ignition switch but got the same results. Now I'm wondering if it could be a bad Alternator??"

@ALB posted:

Great to hear it's up and running again, @Dutch!  How about a pic or 2 of that bad boy so we can see the wheels and it's stance?

@ALB @Dutch

I found a pic of Dutch and his Speedster when he was cruising by our hang-out at the Dana Point Marina.

@DannyP posted:

@Dutch Exactly what was the electrical issue?

Danny I think it was a combination of some bad ground connections and I replaced the signal flasher as well as the emergency flasher and a relay that I honestly am not sure what it manages. But after all that all my problems went away.

I just had a great run with the car out to dinner to Dana point and she performed top-notch. It’s so much fun driving this car as you all know, it’s all about feeling the road and how the car handles. Here are a couple of pics I took today.