That amazing gray $100,000 Vintage Speedster build that everyone loves and nobody seems to like was just re-listed on Bring a Trailer, and the BaT people are digging in.
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That amazing gray $100,000 Vintage Speedster build that everyone loves and nobody seems to like was just re-listed on Bring a Trailer, and the BaT people are digging in.
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Tufted wonder. I love it.
I wonder how come they didn't comment on the Parisian whorehouse interior/frunk/engine compartment accents?
My favorite comment:
"The most beautifully upholstered gas tank I have ever seen."
I like the comments on words selected to describe the car. Lots of $ went into that 1915 cc engine to get "reportedly" 153 hp out of it. See that red diamond tufted interior will grow on you - just wait for it (see the coupe project listed here and SAMBA).
"reportedly totaled $100k in parts"
Emphasis on "reportedly"
There's more that I don't like than I do like on this art piece...
Here's a B Coupe and a 912 the same builder did:
The "comments" section is more interesting than the listing. There has been no small amount of discussion among pedantic English majors regarding the appropriate use of "compliment" vs "complement", etc. There are lots of questions and opinions regarding the ridiculous rear negative camber. The "value police" who feel a compulsion to discuss the price of an auction (not yet finished) are out in full-force, followed by a few guys wondering about the Soviet nick-nacks here and there.
Actually, the hammer-'n-sickle badges sprinkled about explain a lot to me. Think:
"Opulence, I has it."
Not one comment about the wheels, or diamond-tufted engine compartment. A few wondered about a suitcase with a hole in the middle.
It'll be interesting to me to see what this thing runs up to. I think the targeted buyer is a Russian oligarch. Every pot has a lid, I hear.
Interestingly, in the video with the two brother cars, the builder claims he sold the Speedster to finance the purchase of those two P cars he built to match it.
But on BaT, the seller of the Speedster is "the builder."
The builder/owner was pulling into Vintage as Kathy and I and Whitecloud were leaving several years ago. Kirk loved it, I did not, but...if he gets $100K for it, Whitecloud's going on the auction block next week for $75,000...
@Will Hesch it's not the tufted luggage, fancy handbrake or Tag Heuer stopwatches that boost the price. It's the double dashboard grab handles. Add three if you want to hit the high $100's for Whitecloud
It looks like someone vomited chrome and "50 Shades of Grey" at the same time.
Kevin - Bay Area (formerly SF-Speedster) posted:@Will Hesch it's not the tufted luggage, fancy handbrake or Tag Heuer stopwatches that boost the price. It's the double dashboard grab handles. Add three if you want to hit the high $100's for Whitecloud
Kevin, I just ordered them from Sierra Madre.
I can't need them until the red velvet dash-cover with Elvis' face airbrushed on it is installed...
This guy was my first customer to buy my wind wings. They were prototypes, (note the two bars holding the actual wing) I now use a "D" ring to mount them. The red wing matched my car nicely but I went to the more traditional clear ones later.
The owner is a super nice guy ! I'm sorry that he is getting such bad raps on his concept. Too Bad.....He has a lot of money tied up in this car............Bruce
"He has a lot of money tied up in this car" Probably a lot more than he can ever expect to get back. It's hard to see the $$ he quotes, although the quality of work seems high. That's nearly IM6 money. I hope he does reasonably well with it.
That is pure madness putting that much into a pan based $30k VS! He needs a wife to cure that kind of madness.
Thanks for the insight, Bruce. The man is a proper craftsman, I think, even if his taste differs from some of ours. Speaking personally, I'd never spend that kind of money on such a project...unless I had it.
Lord knows, I can't rightly lecture anyone on matters of taste or kit car frugality, given my bespoked bogus Suba-TD and my obsessively-overdetailed bogus Spyder.
Although I only met him once, we had quite a bit of time to dialog about cars. Based on that, I'm pretty sure he paid others to do all the work. If so, I can see how he would have spent the money quoted. I'm sure you all understand that I'm not defending him. I think what Ed wrote above hit it right on the button in a very eloquent way. Thanks ED..............Bruce
Wait...He didn't build that?
In the linked vid with the two similarly-themed real P cars, doesn't he say he did build them? Yes. Yes he does.
4:59 (re the car in question): "I sold that and I bought two real ones..."
5:20 (Q: 7 months to do all this? You have a shop?): "No, we did this at home."
Q: You did this at home? What did you do on it?
"Everything...."
He then allows that he had some people help with a few things. But the man is on TV saying he built the cars.
I'm not with it.
Some people think signing the check means they built it.
Ed, I'm like totally disillusioned, too.
I mean, there he is stating something as fact on the internet. On the internet!
How could it not be true?
I guess signing checks "is" doing something.......Anyway..."beauty" is in the eye of the beholder ?..........Bruce
Yeah I get a little wild-eyed when MFs say they "built" something they actually bought. I guess that's on me, but still: there are perfectly good words for describing planning, designing, construction-managing, and purchasing stuff. See? I just used them.
"Built" should be reserved for builders.
Yup !...........Bruce
The high bid was $50,009 and the reserve was not met?
Kevin - Bay Area (formerly SF-Speedster) posted:The high bid was $50,009 and the reserve was not met?
The dude really, really believes somebody is going to fork over 100 large.
BAT, though... not sure what they're smokin'.
He should have taken the $50K and ran.
I don't understand why they (BAT) rejected Brandon's coupe...
i think its pretty nice,love the understated color, smooth lines,some parts may be a little too much. but i would love to have the car
Plus the buyer on pays BAT a 5% addition fee (not the seller as I once thought).
Stevepimentel posted:i think its pretty nice,love the understated color, smooth lines,some parts may be a little too much. but i would love to have the car.
Well, for $100,000 the Russian pimpmobile can be yours...
i will go to the bank and withdraw my 22 dollars right now.
Was there any engine surround tin in those cars to cool the engines?
Stan Galat posted:Kevin - Bay Area (formerly SF-Speedster) posted:The high bid was $50,009 and the reserve was not met?
The dude really, really believes somebody is going to fork over 100 large.
BAT, though... not sure what they're smokin'.
The owner will only see 100K if he buys it himself.....
they would need to have the steering wheel wrapped in ELVIS's scrotum to fetch 100K
Banzai Pipeline posted:they would need to have the steering wheel wrapped in ELVIS's scrotum to fetch 100K
If that's the kinda stuff you're into bud, but you might not want it known on the worldwide web.
Bill Prout posted:Banzai Pipeline posted:they would need to have the steering wheel wrapped in ELVIS's scrotum to fetch 100K
If that's the kinda stuff you're into bud, but you might not want it known on the worldwide web.
Brothel interior not my bag....pointing to collector value of "the KING"
Not referring to my preference or material choice, just a reflection of value and lack thereof
$50k seems about right for that car. I still don't get how the owner/builder supposedly already sold it and built two real Porsches with the proceeds, though.
IaM-Ray posted:Was there any engine surround tin in those cars to cool the engines?
If you're referring to real Speedsters, Ray, there is sheetmetal to keep the spent cooling air and heat radiating from the exhaust from entering the engine compartment just like a type 1. It's shaped differently, but it performs the same function.
IaM-Ray posted:Was there any engine surround tin in those cars to cool the engines?
Al, I think Ray meant the two cars in the video. Around 6:10 and 6:40 you can see that neither car has tins installed. The 912 even has the headers IN the engine compartment.
Don't think these show cars were meant to be driven much.
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