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Yes it would be great to own one of the last of the production but, individules have tried to get them titled in the US and
"it ain't gonna happen ".....
The glass, bumpers and smog being sub standard, the only way around is it to use a different pre 1975 Vin and that isn't to Kosher.
"it ain't gonna happen ".....
The glass, bumpers and smog being sub standard, the only way around is it to use a different pre 1975 Vin and that isn't to Kosher.
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Alan, the guy says that it was legally imported and that there's different choices in terms of title...could that mean exactly what you say????
I'm pretty familiar with importing cars as I have done several now.
Basically, the car is legally imported, for off-road use. Meaning it has no registration or license plate and can't be driven on public roads. The only way to register it would be illegally calling it a pre '76 car. Since it is a 2004, it is not possible to even legally bring it up to current smog and safety standards. It is a pretty garage piece but that is all you can do with it.
-=theron
Basically, the car is legally imported, for off-road use. Meaning it has no registration or license plate and can't be driven on public roads. The only way to register it would be illegally calling it a pre '76 car. Since it is a 2004, it is not possible to even legally bring it up to current smog and safety standards. It is a pretty garage piece but that is all you can do with it.
-=theron
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Of course it may not be legal but a guy here in Iowa bought an old rusted out bug and just moved the vin info to the new car..no one here is going to care.
Well we all agree on the title, smog etc.
But it's interesting even though eBay proof reads all vehicle auctions prior to posting the actaul auction )that's why there is up top a five hour delay before it becomes available in the listing) they fail to catch something as "very grey" as the title "options"
But it's interesting even though eBay proof reads all vehicle auctions prior to posting the actaul auction )that's why there is up top a five hour delay before it becomes available in the listing) they fail to catch something as "very grey" as the title "options"
You guys know this car is got a catalytic converter, do you?
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Yes Ignacio, the thing is that for the car to be legally driven in the US it has to comply with several other standards as mentioned by Alan such as bumpers, glass, seat belts and restraining systems, lights, etc.
Still, though, I recall at least 10 years ago an outfit in the US (in Virginia if I remember correctly) that would import Mexican Beetles, Federalize them (if there's such a term) and sell them. They were selling for around $10,000.00 then.
Still, though, I recall at least 10 years ago an outfit in the US (in Virginia if I remember correctly) that would import Mexican Beetles, Federalize them (if there's such a term) and sell them. They were selling for around $10,000.00 then.
Not that it's necessarily a big deal but, the pictures accompanying the Ebay auction are from the VW/Mexico sales brochure.
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Yup to that. Always be wary of "stock" photos. I didn't look any further into it since it's kinda sketchy to get it "legalised" without spending a ton on it. It's still agood looking car. Period.
Here in Spain it has to comply with those rules as well but on an individual basis so that in some way the rules get lighter for these individual approvals. So far we have had quite a bit of these Ultima Edici
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Alan is correct about these bugs.
Ususally, they are used to "rebuild a used VW". It's done by replacing all the parts of the "used" VW with the parts of the Imported bug. (Everything except the VIN, that is). The car now becomes the "used" one so the title and paperwork of the used one is all that's left and used.
These cars can NEVER be registered as new or be made to comply to US specs.
Thats one of the reasons VW quit selling them in the US.
You can get them to pass emissions but they will never comply with DOT specs. (They aren't structually engineered to meet US roll over specs)
After VW quit selling bugs in the US, some Grey-Marketeers were importing and selling them as modified to meet US specs. VW (and the EPA & DOT) went after them and made them quit.
VW's stance was, If we can't make these comply with US specs, How are the aftermarket people doing it? (They wern't)
Greg B.