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April Issue  of Panorama

Letters to the Editor

 

“NO KIT CAR ZONE?

 

“When my February issue arrived, I opened to The Mart.

Having owned my 1956 Speedster, #82569, for some time, I am delighted with the

continuing increase in its market value.  However,  I take issue

with a “Speedster” listed for sale that is a kit car, popped out of a mold.  It is no more a Speedster

than a chunk of plastic.  If sellers wish to advertise their kit cars and faux Speedsters in The Mart, then, you should develop a separate section for them.  Do not give them an opportunity to list their reproductions alongside the real cars that owners attempt to maintain in perfect condition.

DAVID VERNON WINSTEAD, Ph.D”.

Via email.

 

Editor-We’ll keep an eye out.

 

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EXCUSE me!!! LOL
 
Originally Posted by art:

April Issue  of Panorama

Letters to the Editor

 

“NO KIT CAR ZONE?

 

“When my February issue arrived, I opened to The Mart.

Having owned my 1956 Speedster, #82569, for some time, I am delighted with the

continuing increase in its market value.  However,  I take issue

with a “Speedster” listed for sale that is a kit car, popped out of a mold.  It is no more a Speedster

than a chunk of plastic.  If sellers wish to advertise their kit cars and faux Speedsters in The Mart, then, you should develop a separate section for them.  Do not give them an opportunity to list their reproductions alongside the real cars that owners attempt to maintain in perfect condition.

DAVID VERNON WINSTEAD, Ph.D”.

Via email.

 

Editor-We’ll keep an eye out.

 

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X2.  No more a Speedster than a chunk of plastic?  Certainly in the spirit of one though and driven and enjoyed the world over.  D. Winstead Ph.D must be expressing an altruistic concern that all the folks that smile and ask about our cars are being dupped....horrors. Or maybe afraid it intrudes on the exclusivity of his own car and it perfect condition.

A lot of good Mr. Winstead's Ph.D has done for him.  He's a Realtor in Essex, CT and the publisher of a small town magazine called East Haddam Events.  Although somewhere in his life he must have done something right since he has owned/sold a fair number of exotic cars. It didn't however make him very acceptable/tolerable of others.

I have noticed that attitude and tolerance has a lot to do with income and where you live sometimes. That particular area is full of people with lots of money who think they are better than everyone else. Not all, but a good bunch.

 

In my area, Hudson Valley region PCA, the members seem to tolerate me pretty well, and I always am invited and welcomed. My little replica has been in Pano a couple times over the years in the Region reports......I keep my membership even though I don't own a real one anymore, in fact, the one I owned never hit the road!

When I owned Corvettes I was asked at different times to join a regional Corvette club in CO, AZ, WA. Went to one meeting here in CO, that was enough for me. Who needs some twerps telling you what you need to do to your car because somethings on it or done to it are not 'correct'...'correct' for what??? Just a bunch of 'gold chain' wearing snobs is my take on it.

 

The Olympic Peninsula Region PCA in WA used to invite me and my friends Andy and Martin to their events with our Cobras. Yes, there were some who wouldn't have a thing to do with us yet they were a small minority. Overall they embraced us with open arms, especially after we helped them out with their annual charity fund raiser car shows by using our contacts to get outside donations and sponsors for the events. Some people are always snobs...

Yeah, I don't care if the nuts have the proper color zinc plating on them, really I don't. I had a guy run, yes run, across a parking lot as I was out with my lady getting cash at the bank. He runs up, and without saying a word, raps on the fender. I knew it was a fake he says. Then he proceeds to tell me all about the two real 356s he has in different states of disrepair.

 

So I say, I don't really care, I built this to enjoy and drive, which is what I'll do now, and pulled away. What an a$$ that guy was!

When I was having my tires changed yesterday, the guy sitting next to me in the waiting area asked me if it was "real".  I replied that it was a replica and he immediately assumed that it was a "kit car".  He was nice about it, so I explained that it was neither, but rather a limited production manufactured car, designed and built by a small company in Knoxville.  We parted on good terms and I felt he had (maybe?) learned something.  

Originally Posted by Robert McEwen:

A lot of good Mr. Winstead's Ph.D has done for him.  He's a Realtor in Essex, CT and the publisher of a small town magazine called East Haddam Events.  Although somewhere in his life he must have done something right since he has owned/sold a fair number of exotic cars. It didn't however make him very acceptable/tolerable of others.

He must be a lot of fun at parties. :/

@ Hoss

 

My responses are solely dependent on how much time I or they have.  Questions asked out of a car window get one word answers:

 

What year is it?

     1957.

 

What is it?

     1957 Porsche.

Looks cool.

     Thanks.

Is it real?

     Yes. (It is a real car)

 

If they ask me if it is a kit car I tell them no as well.  I tell them it is a custom manufactured fiberglass replica.  If they ask more questions I tell them about Vintage, Beck, and Intermeccanica. Many are intrigued and ask more questions and I oblige them with the answers. At the last car show I went to a PCA guy asked me a lot of questions about it and invited me to their next get together. I had to decline because I had a prior commitment but I thought it was cool that he asked me.  He obviously wasn't offended by my replica and even commented on how great it looked. 

I have yet to meet any of the PCA snobbies I keep hearin' about.  One reason may be that I don't go looking for them.  I'm havin' too much fun w/ my homies on the SOC, and all my like-minded buds.  I'm not sure how I'd get on if/when I ever do.  Will have to see.  It just may be that I WAS one of those snobbies back in the day, having owned two 356 coupes in my time.  Didn't hang w/ the PCA types then either.  Can't recall ever feeling especially superior about it, but I did know in my bones (much like I do now) that I have the coolest car anywhere around.  So there . . .  phhhhtttttt!

 

 And I'll do the same when asked: give the short answers as McEwen has said. And most often that satisfies.  Without a doubt #1 on the all-time hit parade is "What year is it?"  And if the conversation elaborates, and there is genuine interest, then we get into how the car is made, what makes it go, etc. etc.

With one notable exception all of the local Porsche folks have been very welcoming to me.  The one exception was an older (even than me) lady that approached me at one of our Cars and Coffees a couple of years back.  The conversation went like this:

 

Her (nose slightly in the air): "Who did your restoration?"

Me: "It's actually a Beck recreation."

Her (as she turns and walks away): "Well that explains a lot."

Me: "Have a nice day." (or something to that effect - I think)

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Ted wrote (and appropriately so):

 

"Really? We're doing this again?... 

 

*sigh*  "

 

 

 Well Ted, you've got THAT right.

 

You guys drive replicas.

 

People will ALWAYS see them as inferior.

 

Quoted from "Obi Wan Kenobi" - "There's nothing happening here........

 

Move along....."

 

Oh.....And while you were all moaning about Porsche snobs, I went out and replaced my entire fuel delivery system (but kept the rotary fuel pump.  Just mounted it with far better noise-reducing mounts and cleaner hose runs and a new, easily changed filter).

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Originally Posted by TRP:

Really? We're doing this again?... 

 

*sigh*

But of course. This topic NEVER gets old! There is an ass for every seat, or my favorite Beatles quote: "Now they know how many holes it takes to fill the Albert Hall". John talking about the British Parliament, good one! Anal retentive P-car guys are SO easy to piss off!

I own a few Porsches, and I love my Porsche Speedster, and consider it as good, if not better than what the some of the snobs own. I never understood people's attitudes. I remember bringing my Boxster S to an outing and even so, some had their noses up in the stratosphere. I guess for some they think the Boxster is not a real (whatever the "F" that means) Porsche either. To me, "REAL" is driving and keeping it fun. Isn't that what it is all about? I could give a flying "S*IT" what they think.
Here are my "FAKE PORSCHES" lol

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I'm waiting for a Porsche Cayenne or a Cayman owner to say anything bad about my fun toy so I can point out the fact that there car is not really a Porsche either. lmao

I just love driving my fake and it makes people smile and point added bonus.

I should say that I've already had a talk with a Cayenne owner and he had no idea his car was actually a rebadged VW Touareg sure now the body is more Porsche but all the things that make it run are VW and just re-badged.

 

 

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Art, It's a pre-fab garage that I had built and delivered. Really not expensive (under 7K) Standard sized garage door, and 3/4 floor raised over 6X6s with 2X6 stick construction. No pressboard, all plywood.

My other garage built in 1930 is stacked to the hilt with 2 "REAL" Porsches, (JUST KIDDING) lol, so I had to have this new one built just for Delilah, my "honestly real" Vintage Speedster with just 769 original miles that I just purchased from Oregon. I lover her more than my kids. Here is the 1930 planked roof garage with a new 4 post lift (tax return) recently (last year) installed. The garage was held together with a huge loft holding the side walls, but to use the lift's height, I needed to eliminate the lofts, re-engineer the roof line and the through bolt supports to carry the extra winter snow loads. The floor isn't pretty but the weight distribution of the lift makes it useable.

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Some purists will never understand; see how much fun we have driving our cars, and think our cars are handmade just as theirs. No one never thought the Germany made Speedster would ever think it would have a $$$$$ value many decades later. The purists drove the real $$$$ to where its at today and that's their dam fault. We are just smarter that we have  money left to drive for fun. I've had several real Speedster owns say these cars drive much better than the real thing. That says a lot and make me feel good. Besides, Porsche started off using VW parts to make the car . . . . ha, ha. Michael

 
 
Originally Posted by Lane Anderson - Mt. Pleasant, SC:

With one notable exception all of the local Porsche folks have been very welcoming to me.  The one exception was an older (even than me) lady that approached me at one of our Cars and Coffees a couple of years back.  The conversation went like this:

 

Her (nose slightly in the air): "Who did your restoration?"

Me: "It's actually a Beck recreation."

Her (as she turns and walks away): "Well that explains a lot."

Me: "Have a nice day." (or something to that effect - I think)

Being the wise guy that I am, I would have looked at the woman head to toe, and replied with "who did your restoration, ma'am?""maybe try for a second opinion for better result". Her false eyelashes would have curbed by themselves.

Originally Posted by TRP:
Originally Posted by Robert McEwen:

A lot of good Mr. Winstead's Ph.D has done for him.  He's a Realtor in Essex, CT and the publisher of a small town magazine called East Haddam Events.  Although somewhere in his life he must have done something right since he has owned/sold a fair number of exotic cars. It didn't however make him very acceptable/tolerable of others.

He must be a lot of fun at parties. :/

Interesting Mrs Winfrey is a realtor from there and publisher from Essex CT. THATS THE TOWN I PICKED UP MY 2000 MR2. Nice neighborhood mostly filled with plastic palaces, a bedroom type of community. No impressive at all since I did not spot at least one 356 Speedster Replica. They need to keep it real in ESSEX. So Drive a Speedster, like the soft drink, because it's the real thing.

Bruce, its a good thing your car didn't have a bra on it at the time, could have escalated into heavy breathing.

What kills me are the "knockers" and the "feelers".  In fact I was looking at a photo I took of my grandson by our Speedster at a local Cars & Coffee.  If you look in the back - its a friggin' feeler, feeling the rear fender to see if it's a fake.  Isn't it obvious without copping a feel?  

  

 

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