Skip to main content

If it's not one thing it's another!

Light squeal when clutch fully depressed. Throw out bearing going?

Fortunately I can shift with no problem not making it squeal (at least not to my ear above my HiPo motor)

 

Could it be something else? Before I pull the motor I want to know a scenarios.

Thanks in advance!

1957 CMC (Flared Speedster) 2110cc blahblablah

Original Post

Replies sorted oldest to newest

Yeah, it sounds like a dry throw-out bearing.

 

Could be the weather.  If it only makes noise when you depress the clutch, drive it for a week or so and see if it goes away (the "Car Talk" method).  If it does, Hurray!  If it keeps squealing, time to pull the engine and install a new one.  Email Carey to see what he uses, or get a German ($$$) or Brazilian ($$) one from Bug City.

 

Replacing that bearing can be done in a day or less.  Using a Motorcycle jack to get the engine out/in makes it a lot easier.

Originally Posted by Caretech-IM:

I had that same thing in a 69 VW 1600cc annoying thing and then you need to pull the engine to change it ... then you start thinking, how old is the clutch? etc etc.  Ray

Just replace the offending piece and re-install, or you'll be rebuilding the thing into a 160hp stroker. Seen it happen...

Originally Posted by ALB:
Originally Posted by Caretech-IM:

I had that same thing in a 69 VW 1600cc annoying thing and then you need to pull the engine to change it ... then you start thinking, how old is the clutch? etc etc.  Ray

Just replace the offending piece and re-install, or you'll be rebuilding the thing into a 160hp stroker. Seen it happen...

New throw-out bearing....new clutch.....lightened flywheel.......better heads.......bigger cylinders.......better carbs.......and on and on and on......

If/When you get one, try to get German or Brazilian (Yeah, I know I said that up above, but it's important).  Bug City has those and I know that the bearings from Air-cooled.net are supposed to be pretty good, too.

 

You'll need to know whether it's an early or late bearing:

 

Early bearing is 111-141-165A and has different throw-out lever arms to accept the bearing and there is no sleeve attached to the transmission case for the bearing to  slide on as a guide.

 

The later bearing is 113-141-165B (yes, that's a type 3 number) and slides in and out while riding on a sleeve attached to the trans case around the input shaft.  I think they started using this one after 1961 on some transaxles, but definitely after 1968, and that's how Rancho builds them.  If you have a Rancho transaxle, you might be able to get the right bearing from them, too, but I have no experience with that.

 

Rancho's page:  http://www.ranchotransaxles.co...7oimfjoi3k2umsihmtq3

 

The two bearings are NOT interchangeable, but Rancho has a conversion bearing from early to late model.

 

Aircooled:  http://vwparts.aircooled.net/V...t-Bearings-s/144.htm

 

Bug City:  https://www.bugcity.com/shop/s...htm?pquery=111141165

Last edited by Gordon Nichols

I believe youll find squeal is result of non-concentric paths of to bearing Teflon face and pplate release surface. Remedied by drilling access hole in bellhsng graphite spray w/tube on nozzle to coat Teflon.(I am assuming this is pre 71 vw trans be careful and don't overdo!   have seen many to bearings replaced and not the prob! bob

Early has a ring that mounts to the pressure plate, late bearing doesn't. Early uses spring clips to attach the bearing to the clutch cross shaft. I lost one and it squeaked.

 

I replaced them with heavy duty ones from Weddle Industries, a GOOD American company. They sell good parts at reasonable prices and absolutely are the best in any trans issues. Hey, the squeak is gone......This is the place that supplied me with all my trans rebuild parts.

Last edited by DannyP
Post Content
×
×
×
×
Link copied to your clipboard.
×
×