Uneven left side to right side height CMC wide body

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Thanks for the reply Art. My sag is in the front of the car in this case. The rear of the car seems to be straight.

No, it is NOT butt sag.

Please try the following steps: 

1.  Thoroughly grease the front beam.  There should be a grease fitting on each end of each of the front torsion tubes.  Get a decent grease gun and shoot 8 - 12 pumps of grease into each fitting until you see grease coming out of the end of the torsion tube next to the trailing arm hub.   Once greased, take it for a ride of 15 minutes or so and then park it on a level surface and see if it has settled properly.  If not,........try removing the front shocks, go for a short ride and see if it settles then.  If not.........

2.  Assuming that the torsion tubes and shocks are not seizing up in the front, the height of both sides in the front is really set by the height of the rear of the body and THAT is set by adjusting the rear torsion bars.  Look under “Resources/Knowledge base” up above for an article titled “setting rear ride height on a speedster” and that tells you how to do it.  No body removal required.

Thanks Gordon appreciate the response I will try greasing it. I currently have no motor or trans in the car yet but will try your suggestion soon as I get it going. The shocks are new and the tubes move ok. Is it possible for the torsion bars inside the tubes to be the issue?

Assume you cycled both ...of the shocks in and out a couple of times before installing ?

When you say  cycled the shocks are you saying fully extend them then compress them a few times before installing?

Yes sir

Yes, I did about 2x. I have the frontend apart currently to replace the gearbox so I think I will just remove the shock again and exercise  it a few more time to be on the safe side. 

BTW: Alan, I read one of yours and Gordons previous posts about the bendpak lift and got one, by far some of the best money ever spent thanks for the recommendation!

Aren't there a batch of ball joints (Chinese?) out there that can seize and not articulate once pressed into the torsion bar swing arms.  If you rule that out opposite rear side swing arm torsion bar adjustment would be my next guess - like Gordon said.

With the shock loose more the arms up and see that they both move the same 

I actually tried that they do move the same. The movement is stiff not a lot of travel but I think that is to be expected.

Yeah, pretty much.  

You know, since you don't yet have the drivetrain in there, I would just press on with the build and when the engine/transaxle are both in there, then you can set ride height all around and make everything even.  Setting the front left to right is done by adjusting the rear height left and right and that info can be found here:

 https://www.speedsterowners.co...rear-ride-height--vw

Trying to set ride height now without an engine and transaxle weight in the rear is fruitless -you'll just end up re-doing it when you've finished the build.

If you roll the car a couple/few feet  forward and back a couple of times it will help settle the suspension. As was said, without the engine and trans in the car it's hard to guess where the ride height will end up, but if you get the rear torsion bars set up now so it's even side to side it will be easier to adjust later should there be a need. A couple of friends (the bigger the better) sitting on the back jump seat will help give you an idea of where the ride height will end up.

If you can't get the ride height even after the rear torsion bars are at the same angle side to side, look at the front beam- if it's used and was pulled out of a donor car (remember it may have come out of a wreck), could one side be bent? I've seen just a bottom tube tweaked and that side would not move freely at all! If you're sure it's straight (or it's new), 1 or more ball joints could be installed incorrectly-

the notches not aligned properly will prevent the ball joint from going through it's full range of motion and make it very stiff. Not everyone these days knows about the alignment notches, so if you've had new ball joints installed it's something to check. Al 

If you lifted the car then lowered it the suspension will be all wonky until it gets rolled around a dozen feet or so. Happens every time you lift it off the ground. Wait and see before making adjustments.