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For those who use USAA:

Today, a company in Clearwater, Fla., called to make sure USAA's database has the correct information for our vehicles. They asked the usual questions; what do you have, how often do you drive them, et cetera.
The Speedster has always been wrong on the policy, despite harangue and good intentions otherwise. She's listed as a "1994 PORCHE SPDSTR" -- which means they don't have a reference car in their database. It was originally assembled in 1984, it's not a Porsche, and it's not a SPDSTR.
I have options for my VIN, but she's registered right now by the '73 Karmann Ghia donor riveted to the back of the door jamb. It could be registered otherwise, but it isn't my intention to misrepresent the car.
The company who called initially today wasn't USAA. It was a subcontractor, and when I asked if this was a good time for me to finally set the record straight on what the car should actually be insured as, they transferred me to Policy Services.
The lady who took over the other end of the conversation was very polite, had a sense of humor and really seemed like she wanted to be helpful, but was stuck. She had never run into a kit or replica question before.
Bottom line is, they wound up on the phone for more than an hour. I convinced them that I need the car to be insured for not more than $20,000 or the cost of 1) a '73 Karmann Ghia convertible or 2) the cost of a beat-up, daily-driver 356.
I told them how much I was into the car for, and they said (again) that they would have to bump this up to their underwriters for modification. Last time, it was months -- culminating in no movement.
Not what I was after, but it's what they do. My question for the membership here is pretty basic. Their line-item information is not accurate, and they don't know what to change it to.
Can some of you who use USAA for insurance on your Speedsters please look at the actual nomenclature used for the car on the policy?
Where mine read "1994 PORCHE SPDSTR," there have to be other alternatives in their system they can use as a basis for clearing that mess off of mine.
They're say they're going to call me back next Friday with the underwriter's advice. The car's insured for what I think it can be rebuilt for right now, not too far off of the cost of a Ghia or a driveable coupe, but I would like to have some knowledge in my pocket to compare with theirs.
Any help is appreciated. USAA's a great company, but I don't know that they'll dial this in without a lot more discussion.


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For those who use USAA:

Today, a company in Clearwater, Fla., called to make sure USAA's database has the correct information for our vehicles. They asked the usual questions; what do you have, how often do you drive them, et cetera.
The Speedster has always been wrong on the policy, despite harangue and good intentions otherwise. She's listed as a "1994 PORCHE SPDSTR" -- which means they don't have a reference car in their database. It was originally assembled in 1984, it's not a Porsche, and it's not a SPDSTR.
I have options for my VIN, but she's registered right now by the '73 Karmann Ghia donor riveted to the back of the door jamb. It could be registered otherwise, but it isn't my intention to misrepresent the car.
The company who called initially today wasn't USAA. It was a subcontractor, and when I asked if this was a good time for me to finally set the record straight on what the car should actually be insured as, they transferred me to Policy Services.
The lady who took over the other end of the conversation was very polite, had a sense of humor and really seemed like she wanted to be helpful, but was stuck. She had never run into a kit or replica question before.
Bottom line is, they wound up on the phone for more than an hour. I convinced them that I need the car to be insured for not more than $20,000 or the cost of 1) a '73 Karmann Ghia convertible or 2) the cost of a beat-up, daily-driver 356.
I told them how much I was into the car for, and they said (again) that they would have to bump this up to their underwriters for modification. Last time, it was months -- culminating in no movement.
Not what I was after, but it's what they do. My question for the membership here is pretty basic. Their line-item information is not accurate, and they don't know what to change it to.
Can some of you who use USAA for insurance on your Speedsters please look at the actual nomenclature used for the car on the policy?
Where mine read "1994 PORCHE SPDSTR," there have to be other alternatives in their system they can use as a basis for clearing that mess off of mine.
They're say they're going to call me back next Friday with the underwriter's advice. The car's insured for what I think it can be rebuilt for right now, not too far off of the cost of a Ghia or a driveable coupe, but I would like to have some knowledge in my pocket to compare with theirs.
Any help is appreciated. USAA's a great company, but I don't know that they'll dial this in without a lot more discussion.


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Cory, I have three cars and a golf cart insured with USAA and have been with them since 1960. They have never taken any of my specialty cars. The last time around they recommended Grundy but the young lady that answered the phone there was so incoherent or flakey that I went elsewhere and ended up with the Heacock Insurance Group of Burns, TN. They are underwritten by American Home Insurance. They seem to offer the type of policies you are describing.

My take was that USAA does not insure specialty cars or older restored cars.
Cory,
Just talked to my wife Kim about this, call Kim at her work number on Monday 717 264 6113 (my speciality insurance lady)...Kim can write correct insure on your car no matter how it is titled as long as you are up front that it is what it is and will be insured as such and at an agreed value as she has written all of mine for many years Bruce's, Bob's and others. ~Alan
USAA, I think, insured your car by accident. I checked with Geico and other insurers after I bought Bridget. They were clueless and scared. Ended up with Grundy.

Sara Vogel
Grundy Worldwide
400 Horsham Road, Suite 150
Horsham, PA 19044-6957
Toll Free (800)338-4005 Ext. 160
Fax (215)674-5685
Hours of Operation: M-F 8:30 am-4:45 pm eastern standard time
www.grundy.com

I think I paid $100 or $120 for the year and got a $5k "stated value" policy. Next year I'll probably up it to $6,000 or $7,000. The kit car and hotrod insurers know this market and will give you a competitive quote (Hagerty was like $180 for something similar).

My guess is Grundy will insure the Hoopty on a no-race basis for about $300, given your stated value and the probability that you drive her more than the customary 1000 miles or less each year. Give Sara a call & she'll tell you what.
Thanks for the help, guys.
I'm not looking to switch carriers, although I'll be calling Kim on Monday, anyway.
I'm very happy with USAA's policy details and the company overall. The comprehensive policy specifics are part of what I want to discuss with them next week.
Dave, $20K is what I would want back if something happened to the car, not what it would take to build another one. I will never see THAT kind of money out of the Hoopty, selling it or in the form of a check from the insurance company. I'm okay with that. If I was going to make a decision on whether to build a replacement or look around for something comparable, it might be less expensive to buy an IM-6.
Twenty grand would allow me to have another fun car of a similar type overall, but not one I would expect to behave the same way. It wouldn't be economically responsible to focus my energy and resources on another all-out, one-off projekt again.
It would ruin my very happy marriage if I disappeared into the garage for another year and-a-half to build a replacement.
Hey Cory,

We insured everything with USAA, home and car, except for my coupe. When I called them when the car was built, they told me that they don't insure kit car. I believe your car is insured by them by mistake thinking it is a Porsche. However, if you are able to insure it with USAA at agreed value, let me know as I am now with Hagerty with the usual limitation of not using it every day and has to be garaged.

Good luck,

Eddy
Hagerty has always been good to me, I am currently on my second claim with them, and they've been better than decent about it.

But listen to Alan, and call Kim. If that doesn't work out, call Hagerty for the Hoopty. These are specialty cars and should be insured that way, conventional insurers don't have a clue and get scairt real quick! Agreed value coverage, no deductable, and an appraiser came to my house to check out the car. Good service in my book, and for a reasonable amount, $480 a year for year-round coverage. I leave the car on the road all year.
FWIW, I have had cars and house and now also my actions in society at large(umbrella policy) with Erie. When the JPS came along, I asked them to insure it, and they agreed to come have a look. The car is registered in MD as its doner, '72 Beetle, and I have the VIN to prove it. They sent a guy around to look at the car and agree that it might be worth what I paid for it. He'd never seen/heard of such a thing (and he thought the car was very cool) and made his report to the home office. And so I have the policy, and no claims made against it to date, so I have no real idea how all of that will go, if it ever comes to that. It costs about as much to carry the Speedster on my policy as an occassional driver as it does my real car.
Cory,

USAA can be a pain in the rear. I've had all my insurance with them until recently. They have always tried to "shift " me to a third party carrier for my sports cars and also my B&B insurance! The price/costs were always higher than other insurance companies. I have my MP Lafer and Speedster coverage through Hagerty's. You can determine the amount/value that you want to cover for your vehicle. Also, it is an online procedure. USAA was great until 2002 or so. Note that every phone conversation, any requests or transactions are recorded or filed in their computer records. I know from personal experience!
I'll be glad to discuss, but here.
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