I am sure that this subject has been discussed before. Does the vin of a VW pan show up anywhere else other than the location behind the emergency brake on the tunnel? Is there only one location?
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I am sure that this subject has been discussed before. Does the vin of a VW pan show up anywhere else other than the location behind the emergency brake on the tunnel? Is there only one location?
I think so; of course it's also on the dash but you're talking about the pan.
Thanks Ricardo
It is only a pan and the dashboard was done away with long ago along with the tag. Somebody recently told me that it appears three times on the vehicle: Dashboard, tunnel and somewhere else. But I can't seem to find the third. I believe that it is only on the tunnel.
Dan
It is only a pan and the dashboard was done away with long ago along with the tag. Somebody recently told me that it appears three times on the vehicle: Dashboard, tunnel and somewhere else. But I can't seem to find the third. I believe that it is only on the tunnel.
Dan
At least with the newer beetles the VIN number is also on the upper floor of the trunk...
Ignacio
Ignacio
Volkswagens had the VIN on the frame and on a plate in the spare tire well. Later on they added a tag to the top of the dash board, and an emissions "decal" on the door frame. On some of their models the VIN tag was moved from the spare tire well to the passenger side wall of the front "trunk". Different models (Beetle, Ghia, Type III ) have had the VINS in different places, but always stamped on the chassis as well.
The chassis number isn't an "authorized" VIN identity number and not exclusively used for inspection or car identity verification. The inner front luggage compartment tag is meant for that. Later the dash number made it easier. The tag on the door is to verify emissions compliance for the year of manufacture. The chassis stamping is just that, a chassis number meant to coincide with any other numbers on the car. Early Ghias even had numbers stamped into the doors.
Pre-A 356 Speedsters have the number on the front luggage area/trunk, the doors, the aluminum dash board spacers, inner fender finishing plates, and hand written behind the dash itself. These numbers were for the men "hand building" these cars to help identify the bits and pieces that they had "fitted" together while making each car.
So . . . now you know.
The question IS, is your Speedster a VW and registered as such. OR is the original body, now sitting on a custom tube chassis and registered in AZ the genuine VW.
Answer: NEITHER! All the numbers have to be present and accounted for during inspection in order to verify that the car is legal and matches the title, registration, and insurance policy . . . at least in Massachusetts . . .
"We gotta get outta this place . . . "
TC
The chassis number isn't an "authorized" VIN identity number and not exclusively used for inspection or car identity verification. The inner front luggage compartment tag is meant for that. Later the dash number made it easier. The tag on the door is to verify emissions compliance for the year of manufacture. The chassis stamping is just that, a chassis number meant to coincide with any other numbers on the car. Early Ghias even had numbers stamped into the doors.
Pre-A 356 Speedsters have the number on the front luggage area/trunk, the doors, the aluminum dash board spacers, inner fender finishing plates, and hand written behind the dash itself. These numbers were for the men "hand building" these cars to help identify the bits and pieces that they had "fitted" together while making each car.
So . . . now you know.
The question IS, is your Speedster a VW and registered as such. OR is the original body, now sitting on a custom tube chassis and registered in AZ the genuine VW.
Answer: NEITHER! All the numbers have to be present and accounted for during inspection in order to verify that the car is legal and matches the title, registration, and insurance policy . . . at least in Massachusetts . . .
"We gotta get outta this place . . . "
TC
TC:
GREAT Info!
When I registered my Speedster as a 1969 VW convertible in Massachusetts, nobody bothered to check the VIN number(s). I have the number stamped into the rear of the frame, and I also have the upper dash tag, although it's not attached. Still, nobody bothered to check.
When I transferred the registration to Roe-dyland, you're supposed to take the car to your local police station and have someone check the VIN against whatever documentation you have; out-of-state registration, title, insurance certificate, whatever. The cop I got probably wouldn't have a clue as to where to look for the "official" number, and, besides, when he got out there to look at it, all he could do was gush all over the car about how cool it was and then FORGOT TO SIGN THE FORM!! I had to make another trip back just to get him to sign it.......and THEN I found out, when I got to the DMV, that the VIN check is waived on cars older than 7 years (no idea why, they just do). BTW: Boats they check back 15 years on the VIN......guess that's why it's called "the Ocean State".
Gordon
GREAT Info!
When I registered my Speedster as a 1969 VW convertible in Massachusetts, nobody bothered to check the VIN number(s). I have the number stamped into the rear of the frame, and I also have the upper dash tag, although it's not attached. Still, nobody bothered to check.
When I transferred the registration to Roe-dyland, you're supposed to take the car to your local police station and have someone check the VIN against whatever documentation you have; out-of-state registration, title, insurance certificate, whatever. The cop I got probably wouldn't have a clue as to where to look for the "official" number, and, besides, when he got out there to look at it, all he could do was gush all over the car about how cool it was and then FORGOT TO SIGN THE FORM!! I had to make another trip back just to get him to sign it.......and THEN I found out, when I got to the DMV, that the VIN check is waived on cars older than 7 years (no idea why, they just do). BTW: Boats they check back 15 years on the VIN......guess that's why it's called "the Ocean State".
Gordon
"BTW: Boats they check back 15 years on the VIN......"
but the trailers that they're towed on, which are ALWAYS weaving around in front of me on the HIGHWAY, can be home-made and don't have any inspection done to them at all . . .
:)
TC
but the trailers that they're towed on, which are ALWAYS weaving around in front of me on the HIGHWAY, can be home-made and don't have any inspection done to them at all . . .
:)
TC
That's true in Massachusetts, but RI recently (two years ago?) started inspecting trailers over 3000 lbs GVW (including payload). I bet Mass. won't be far behind.
Of course, Roe-Dylanders have something like two boats per capita for everybody in the state! (LOL! - and I think ALL of them are on the Newport side of the 'Bay on July 4'th weekend!!)
Of course, Roe-Dylanders have something like two boats per capita for everybody in the state! (LOL! - and I think ALL of them are on the Newport side of the 'Bay on July 4'th weekend!!)
VW vin# can be found on early front beams too! I don't know when the stopped doing it, but I know the early car did it!
Door plate/VIN for a 356 currently for sale on Ebay item #7955752039
With this identification plate and a set of machinist number dies you could stamp the VIN, attach the plate, and get that genuine 356 title. Doesn't seem right, does it?
With this identification plate and a set of machinist number dies you could stamp the VIN, attach the plate, and get that genuine 356 title. Doesn't seem right, does it?
Whomever was smart enough to grab up that 356 driver's side inner door plate with the VIN and body manufacturer's information plate can now grap up this little guy and the ruse is complete.
Just hand stamp the VIN on this and it's a done deal,
cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=42606&item=4532748024&rd=1
It shouldn't be QUITE this easy . . .
Just hand stamp the VIN on this and it's a done deal,
cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=42606&item=4532748024&rd=1
It shouldn't be QUITE this easy . . .