Vintage Speed Superflow Exhaust

It arrived in a Delorean...? I gotta see that!

It must have... it arrived a day before it was even supposed to be shipped out.

The muff end caps have hex plugs.
What for ?
Cleanout?
removable baffles/ FG insul ??

I just received my 1-5/8" Custom "superflow" exhaust from Vintage Speed. It is a real nice looking unit. It was custom made to be used with heat exchangers. Very cool people to deal with. I ordered it on the 17 of March. Was told 3-4 weeks to build and 4-8 days to ship. Last week I was told it would be shipped on the 13th. Today is April 12th. It arrived in a highly modified DeLorean. Needless to say im very Impressed with shipping time, packaging was done very well. All in all these guys are running there business right. Cant wait to see what else they come up with. I cant seam to get parts form California this quick.

Ive attached some images. I am going to put the sound meter in my car tonight and take some readings with the current exhaust, then take some when I have the VS installed. I need to have flanges welded to the unit in order to mate up with the heater box.

One on each side... for O2 sensors when dialing in the motor. I guess it could be used for fuel injection as well.

Very nice. I'd like to see a post-installation picture.

Paul,

Did you get your car running again?

Bruce

Yes Bruce. Its back on the road. Lane, you will see/hear it at Carlisle.

Here is a Samba write up:

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=384369&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0

The can does hang a little low... No lower than my extended sump im sure. We will see...

Ming's a great guy and he produces excellent products.
I love my shifter.

Make the cut(s) & add some extensions. The p-shooter exhaust would look great on your car.

Sooo, the exhaust does not fit. I would have to cut holes in the glass. Not willing to do it. Also, the tips need to be 2" longer. Too bad. The look is exactly what I have been wanting and it is a very well made product. Its going on The Samba for sale.

If you sell it, how much?

Paul - that is a VERY COOL looking exhaust system. I bet it sounds as good as it looks. FWIW - I would arch-cut the rear valence just enough for the tailpipe clearance and leave the length as it is. Any extension would cause the tips to drag on entry/exit of low driveways.

...I'm just saying...

Cut it Paul! Thats a sweet exhaust. The car is fiberglass, an easy fix down the road if needed. Besides it's under the rear bumper and out of the way. You, or anyone else for that matter would never even notice it. I had to cut mine a bit because my single out was pointed down too much. It's still pointed down, but not as much.

Ive got $520 into the exhaust. Another $266 into heater boxes and levers. The exhaust was custom built (apparently not custom enough) to use 1-5/8" tubing with the heater box set up. Vintage speed does not tpically offer this. Feel free to make an offer.

I could have the exhaust manifolds fabricated to drop the exhaust enough to clear the rear valence (valance?). Not going to happen anytime soon though.

Jim, good point about extending the tips. I was thinking along the lines of trying to avoid black residue and heat from destroying the paint on my bumper.

I agree, cut it. From the first picture it looks like you'll only have to remove a little fiberglass, which you could do with a Dremel or something. To protect the paint on you bumper you could use some of the clear film tape that's available from Griot's. I have a roll of it that's 2" wide and that I used at the top of my doors to protect the paint from rubbing by the windows. I also put a piece under the ignition switch to prevent the key from scratching the dash. This way, when it becomes blackened, just peal it off and add some new stuff.

any reason I couldnt cut off the tailpipes and move them further down on the exhaust. It would definately help to get the exhaust higher up under the car. There is plenty of room for it.

Cutting the apron = 20 mins. Cutting the pipes boring new holes, filling old holes erwelding pipes back on etc.... $$$$ time time ime. Cut it and be done with it.
Paul, it's a beautiful exhaust, very period correct, and obviously very well made. I guess you could say the same thing about your car but it's just two little 1/4 circle grinds that can be filled in with minimal work and repainted in a weekend when and if needed.
I had the same issue with a similar exhaust a few years ago and wasn't gonna cut my car; I got my CB engine and the exhaust and as soon as we put it in and saw the exhasut wasn't gonna line up properly I walked right ove to the drill and hole saw,

When we talked with Ming at the Sacramento Bugorama last September, we talked with him about using his exhaust system with our replicas. He said he could send the system without placing the tips. Then you could cut and place to fit.
But, I do agree with everyone else: cut the glass. That's what I did to fit my system.

Paul, I agree,cut the small moons in the body and run that exhaust. I see the pic from under the car. How is the exhaust mounting up with the heat exchangers? Is there a flange that bolts together or a clamp fit? It is hard to see in the pic.

Paul - just for the sake of visual reference, here are a couple of pics of my A-1 Sidewinder exhaust. It appears that my single center-exit exhaust tip (which I shortened by 2") is about the same length as your custom exhaust. No issues with exhaust burn or residue on the rear valence or bumper...FWIW.

That exhaust is TOO COOL to not make it work on your car!!

I had the same problem. I ended up arch cutting the rear valence, then cut the 2 pipes off and had them rewelded a bit downward to clear better. You can't really tell unless you crawl underneath the car and look....

Paul, I'd cut the fiberglass or have an muffler shop replace the exhaust tips with some pipe with an 'S' bend in it to clear the body.

I have the same exhaust as Jimbo, but the same car as Frank. The rear valances are lower on the old IM's.

here is what jps did to mine
was done after paint and is very clean

Paul, it sounds like if you don't cut the valance to fit, someone may just show up at your house & do it while you sleep. Go for it!

The guys at vintage speed are really good. For being in Taiwan, they are on top of it. I sent MT Lee images of the problem... he told me not to do anything before I hear back from them. They are thinking of a solution. Most vendors would say "Well, thats the exhaust you purchased... sorry". This is a group that takes pride in there work, cant say the same for industry giants like Bugpack or Empi.

Ill wait to hear form vintage speed before I get the sawzall out...

How the radius cut is done on the valance makes the difference between an eye a sore and a factory look....Gerd's picture is spot on .

Would be hilarious if they emailed back and said "cut holes in th fiberglass". As it stands I'd have to cut holes in the bumper as well.

Maybe they'll fabricate and ship you a double-flanged adaptor to install between the exhaust ports and the muffler (to lower the entire exhaust system).

Either way, that's way cool they are helping with a solution.

This is whats happenig. I am mailing my exhaust to a vendor in California. If youd like it, Ill give you there information. MT Lee is sending me a 1:1 full scale drawing that I will plot and make a cardboard stencil out of. I am going to mount the manifolds and modify the cardboard stencil to fit my car exactly. I will draft this up in AutoCAD and send the elevation with dimensions back to him to fabricate a completely custom exhaust for me.

Pretty damn cool.

Why tear your hair out paying for shipping time lost and hoping that, it might fit. Just run it over to the local exhaust shop and let them spend an hour on it. Most can make anything work with minimal labor time and money and they'll enjoy doing something a bit different. ~Alan