Anyone know how much the typical vintage speedsters 356 build is? I'm trying to get a rough idea for tow weight. I was thinking 1800 lbs as rough guess, but that's just rough on my part...
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That's a good guess. Danny Piperato brought corner scales to Carlisle some years ago and IIRC our Speedsters weighed in the range of 1700-2000. My Beck was the low end and I believe some nicely equipped IMs were on the high end. CMCs tend to be on the heat side as well because they have really thick fiberglass.
Anybody else remember what their's weighed?
My CMC weighed exactly 2000 lbs. on Danny's scales at Carlisle one year.
No idea why it's that high, as most of those weighed were between 1800 and 1900 lbs. but there is your range @silverghost
Gordon's is Calif "C" model so I can see some extra weight for the Fiberglass for the flares plus maybe for the 16" rims (but they are real forged Fuchs so maybe not there). Maybe seats have gold bars for balance.
@Lane Anderson posted:That's a good guess. Danny Piperato brought corner scales to Carlisle some years ago and IIRC our Speedsters weighed in the range of 1700-2000. My Beck was the low end and I believe some nicely equipped IMs were on the high end. CMCs tend to be on the heat side as well because they have really thick fiberglass.
Anybody else remember what their's weighed?
You're correct, Lane, about the IMs being heavier. I can't recall exactly, but I think mine was around 22-2300.
A solid steel frame, 911 mechanicals and 5 speed transmission, and a 6 cylinder engine add up.
AH, forgot Gordon has Cordoba Corinthian leather seats. That surely is his extra weight!
The supplied CMC seat kit is rather laughable.
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I first weighed mine a few years before we had "The Great Weigh-In" at Carlisle and for the same reason - My son was building a trailer and wanted to know what his and my cars weighed.
I drove it to a place one town over that is a trash recycling company, sat in line and pulled onto the scale in between a couple of enormous trash packers. Had to stand up in the seat to talk with the lady running the scale, since they usually expected Big Honkin' trucks pulling through that scale and, even then, she had to lean out the window and look down to talk with me.
Something like that really reminds you that you're driving a tiny clown car........
Oh, and she didn't charge me anything for the weigh-in. I think she had something to talk about at dinner that evening..... 🙄
Let’s get this straight 😉 My seats were neither blessed nor sat upon by Ricardo Montalban (and I do not wear my pants as high up the waist as he does), nor are they Corinthian leather. A very large number of adolescent Naugas, harvested exclusively from Naugaland (wherever the heck THAT is!) contributed to providing the covers for my Naugahyde seats. Mature Naugas are heavier Naugas. I tried to keep the weight down where-ever possible, but you get what’cha get, yah know??
Thanks everyone for the input. Specifically if you have a Vintage Speedsters 356 and have weighed it please let me know. It looks from Joe Fortino's post above it will be under 1800 lbs, which is great for me. If no one else posts I'll be weighing one with a full tank of gas next time the roads are clear.
I own a 2021 Vintage 356 Super wide body with 2332cc VW Engine and 8x15 / 11x15" Fuchs with 245/70R15 / 295/50R15 tyres and had been on a certified scale:
Empty weight :
Front left 176 kgs, front right 187 kgs = total front 363 kgs
rear left 237 kgs, rear right 227 kgsd= total rear 464 kgs
Total empty weight 827 kgs
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827 kg is 1819.4 pounds.
I've refrained from posting here, because:
A) I've got an IM and the OP asked about a Vintage Speedster
B) What any particular car weighs is irrelevant in relation to what another car from the same builder weighs.
I'm thankful somebody with a Vintage finally posted, but what Kuehl's car weighs is not going to be within 250 lbs of what silverghost needs.... unless it's exactly the same, or somewhere in between.
If a widebody Vintage weighs 1820 lbs with big wheels, it would seem like a narrow-body with aluminum wheels would weigh less -- except that most wide-5 narrow-bodies run AC Industries/EMPI cast iron brakes which weigh a ton. There is at least a 100 lb swing in wheel/tire and brake packages (maybe more). What kind of exhaust one uses, etc. can make up to 50 lbs difference (A1 sidewinders are really, really heavy). If you have a Subaru or T4 engine, it weighs at least 25 lbs (at a minimum) more than a mag-case T1... but then again, an aluminum bubble-top case adds 20 lbs back. I figure my own dry-sump system adds at least 15 lbs.
Generally speaking, Beck cars are best at weight management, then Vintage Speedsters (or VMC) cars, then IM or CMC cars (both chopper-gun bodies). My car does not weigh 2000 lbs, but neither is it a 1500 lb lightweight.
I can say with confidence that the OP's car weighs somewhere between those two extremes. If I were guessing (and we all are, unless he puts his car on a scale), I'd say it probably weighs 1800 lbs +/- 100 lbs.
So it looks like the OP (and the rest of us) made the right guess, no?