Man, I love bringatrailer. This is cool....homemade and no reserve
https://bringatrailer.com/list...-bus-camper-trailer/
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Here's I found online the other day - for a bigger camping family! A fifth wheel?
VW Type 2 Bus Gets A Nifty Camper Conversion And An Audi Engine | CarBuzz
@WOLFGANG posted:Here's I found online the other day - for a bigger camping family! A fifth wheel?
VW Type 2 Bus Gets A Nifty Camper Conversion And An Audi Engine | CarBuzz
I like that, but I think that trailer is smaller.
The tongue weight on the blue one is what I wonder. He moved the axle forward but had to stop at the door. Also: no kitchen or head, so it's going to be limited.
Greg's 5th wheel rig is boffo for the cool factor but like Rick says: what is gained here over the original bus configuration? The owner reportedly says he gained some space, but it doesn't look like he gained much: he's got a frige; still no kitchen or head.
I love them both tho.
@edsnova posted:The tongue weight on the blue one is what I wonder. He moved the axle forward but had to stop at the door. Also: no kitchen or head, so it's going to be limited.
Greg's 5th wheel rig is boffo for the cool factor but like Rick says: what is gained here over the original bus configuration? The owner reportedly says he gained some space, but it doesn't look like he gained much: he's got a frige; still no kitchen or head.
I love them both tho.
Sellers states total weight 2360 pounds, tongue weight is only about 250lbs
Tongue should be about 1/10. But my point is, is it? With the axle where it is, the way the interior is built, my guess is it's much heavier at the hitch.
And it appears to have the axle bolted directly to the frame as well as no brakes. What could possibly go wrong?
"The seller states that the trailer is equipped with a 3k-pound Dexter torsion axle, and braking is handled by electronically controlled 10″ drums."
Springless suspension though. Hmmm.
Oops, missed that. They're pretty small, though, but at least they're there.
I wonder how bad/dangerous it is running with no suspension. It's not like a DrClock Speedster trailer wherein the cargo has a suspension that dampens the ride and prevents damage to the cargo.
Exactly. A Dexter torsion axle is a very nice way to provide some spring and ride control. Way better packaging than 2 leaf springs and a solid axle.
Pretty standard to have electric drum brakes on a trailer. It all looks pretty normal(and nicely done) to me.
AH! Very cool! I had not noticed the offset & totally missed the word "torsion."
Yes, that should work a treat.
Torsion axles are the shizzle. You can get the load floor much lower with them.
Hello Stan, sent you a PM.
I missed that too, Ed. I take back my reservations.
One question, though: wouldn't shocks be a good idea?
@Lane Anderson posted:I missed that too, Ed. I take back my reservations.
One question, though: wouldn't shocks be a good idea?
The torsion bar is encased in rubber, that is the dampener. I have never seen shocks on a trailer, that I can recall. Packaging would be an issue for a tube shock, but I guess you could use a lever shock.
@Lane Anderson posted:I missed that too, Ed. I take back my reservations.
One question, though: wouldn't shocks be a good idea?
Trailers almost never have shocks.
You guys really don't want to back away from hating on this, do you?
Always a good idea to read the ad twice before commenting on what it doesn't have or won't work 
I stand by my initial comment; LOVE it.
@Stan Galat posted:Trailers almost never have shocks.
You guys really don't want to back away from hating on this, do you?
Actually I'm was just trying to learn. Silly me.
@Lane Anderson posted:Actually I'm was just trying to learn. Silly me.
Well, today you learned about torsion axles and trailers without shocks.
and that Airstream trailers have Torsion axles .....
BAT is cool. Well, I thought it was cool until I ran into this Dodge Avenger. The rental car variety to boot. Don't drive up the bid on me guys, I'm hot on this one. 
Marty - it probably still has The Villages parking sticker in the window.
Remember Daimler/Chrysler?
Remember how the German Merc guys treated the entire Chrysler portfolio like the homely girl they knocked up and were then forever saddled with? How they hated the idea of being linked to Detroit?
This was the offspring of their ill-conceived union, their revenge. "The Avenger".
@Stan Galat posted:Remember Daimler/Chrysler?
Remember how the German Merc guys treated the entire Chrysler portfolio like the homely girl they knocked up and were then forever saddled with? How they hated the idea of being linked to Detroit?
This was the offspring of their ill-conceived union, their revenge. "The Avenger".
I had a Magnum, cheap interior, but I really liked the rest of the car. Best looking wagon since the Tri-Five two door wagons.
@LI-Rick posted:I had a Magnum, cheap interior, but I really liked the rest of the car. Best looking wagon since the Tri-Five two door wagons.
The E-class clones (Magnum, 300, Charger, etc.) were fantastic. The Avenger, Journey, and other misery-machines were the cars I was talking about.
I've been a Chrysler fan-boy for years (at one time I owned 4 of them). When they're right, they're right. When they're off- they're really off.
@Stan Galat posted:The E-class clones (Magnum, 300, Charger, etc.) were fantastic. The Avenger, Journey, and other misery-machines were the cars I was talking about.
I've been a Chrysler fan-boy for years (at one time I owned 4 of them). When they're right, they're right. When they're off- they're really off.
Oh, I get it Stan. I wished they had built a 2 door SRT AWD Magnum!
@LI-Rick posted:Oh, I get it Stan. I wished they had built a 2 door SRT AWD Magnum!
One of the few cars I'd consider "better" than my GM "Malaise-Era" Standard of the World limo would be a 300 SRT (2WD, of course - better to hoon). Alas, I missed out on them when they were at low ebb on the resale curve.
Now that the inevitable BEV future is here, they'll never be cheap again.
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Well, it was 2008.
Maybe the thinking was that cars like these on the showroom floor would encourage SUV sales.
I'd be willing to bet that, even in bright sun, that thing will not cast a shadow.
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@LI-Rick posted:I had a Magnum, cheap interior, but I really liked the rest of the car. Best looking wagon since the Tri-Five two door wagons.
@Stan Galat posted:The E-class clones (Magnum, 300, Charger, etc.) were fantastic. The Avenger, Journey, and other misery-machines were the cars I was talking about.
I've been a Chrysler fan-boy for years (at one time I owned 4 of them). When they're right, they're right. When they're off- they're really off.
I rolled in a Magnum Hemi R/T with 22" rims and blacked out windows for several years when I worked on the fugitive task force. I could go anywhere and fit in, from the hood to the country club. No one would know what surprises were coming there way. It was loaded to the hilt with all of my weaponry, thousands of rounds, battering ram, pick, hooligan tool, collapsible ladder, trauma kit, riot gear, and everything else I needed to operate day to day. And it had their top of the line Bose sound system in it too. I loved that car, fast as heck, even with the 500 pounds of extra gear I carried.
@Robert M posted:I rolled in a Magnum Hemi R/T with 22" rims and blacked out windows for several years when I worked on the fugitive task force. I could go anywhere and fit in, from the hood to the country club. No one would know what surprises were coming there way. It was loaded to the hilt with all of my weaponry, thousands of rounds, battering ram, pick, hooligan tool, collapsible ladder, trauma kit, riot gear, and everything else I needed to operate day to day. And it had their top of the line Bose sound system in it too. I loved that car, fast as heck, even with the 500 pounds of extra gear I carried.
I was under the impression that every Magnum came with the SWAT-team upfit as a dealer installed option: big honkin' V8, satin paint, blackout tint, chrome-trim delete, 22s, and a full arsenal in the back.
Thanks for representing, Robert.
@Stan Galat posted:I was under the impression that every Magnum came with the SWAT-team upfit as a dealer installed option: big honkin' V8, satin paint, blackout tint, chrome-trim delete, 22s, and a full arsenal in the back.
Thanks for representing, Robert.
Road rage would be reduced if they did. 
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@Robert M posted:....It was loaded to the hilt with ...weaponry, thousands of rounds, battering ram, pick, hooligan tool, collapsible ladder, trauma kit, riot gear...
Robert, I thought all of that was standard on the Magnum Hemi.
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Damn, I'm starting to think just like Stan.
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No Reserve and it's at $5,700 with two days to go.
@Sacto Mitch posted:.Damn, I'm starting to think just like Stan..
Sooner or later, everybody does.
Besides, you say that like it's a bad thing.
@Marty Grzynkowicz posted:BAT is cool. Well, I thought it was cool until I ran into this Dodge Avenger. The rental car variety to boot. Don't drive up the bid on me guys, I'm hot on this one.
FWIW, this pile sold for $9600 today.
In 1985, I bought a '65-ish Dodge Dart with a slant-6 and 30,000 old-lady driven miles. I paid $600, and that was a fair price. I just ran $600 through an inflation calculator - that's $1,712.04 in today's money.
I'm calibrated in pre-Troubles dollars. $9600 is insanity.
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There are a million batshot-crazy stories in BaT's naked city, but this one comes to mind from about a year ago.
This 2016 Miata went for $99,787.
That's right. A Miata.
$99,787
Well OK, it may have had an LS3 conversion and a Tremec 6-speed, but still.
You can buy a lot of used Miatas and a lot of LS3's for 99 thou.