Rare color, but otherwise WTF?
I always liked them as well, and they were available with a stick, although those are uncommon. I think you meant "Didn't even have automatic climate control."
Climate control is like measuring with a micrometer, marking with a crayon, and cutting with an axe. I think the main purpose is to make people feel like they have something.
It's always +/- 10 deg, often more. If your passenger wants something 10 deg different, you're in a tiny enclosed space - you both aren't going to be comfortable.
The cabin of an SLK/Crossfire is about half the size of a phone booth. There's not going to be much temperature variation side to side.
I’ve got climate control in my Fiat 500 and it’s pretty good. 1/2 a phone booth sounds about right.
@Stan Galat posted:It's always +/- 10 deg, often more. If your passenger wants something 10 deg different, you're in a tiny enclosed space - you both aren't going to be comfortable.
Agreed ^
I'll say it's better controlled at night but in bright sun it can sure feel like ± 20deg depending whether your in the sun or shade.. and whether you are the "cold" person or the sweating gorilla
more drift, anyone have cooled seats.. I tried them in a Kia Telluride and I've got to say...here in the south, that may be better than heated seats. Funny thing, in they are not available on US spec Honda Ridgelines, but are on Canadian spec Ridgelines??? anyone else see irony in that?
@Wrenn Smith posted:Agreed ^
I'll say it's better controlled at night but in bright sun it can sure feel like ± 20deg depending whether your in the sun or shade.. and whether you are the "cold" person or the sweating gorilla
more drift, anyone have cooled seats.. I tried them in a Kia Telluride and I've got to say...here in the south, that may be better than heated seats. Funny thing, in they are not available on US spec Honda Ridgelines, but are on Canadian spec Ridgelines??? anyone else see irony in that?
I have heated/ventilated seats in my Porsche 718 and my wife's Macan. They are definitely a nice comfort feature.
@Stan Galat posted:Climate control is like measuring with a micrometer, marking with a crayon, and cutting with an axe. I think the main purpose is to make people feel like they have something.
It's always +/- 10 deg, often more. If your passenger wants something 10 deg different, you're in a tiny enclosed space - you both aren't going to be comfortable.
The cabin of an SLK/Crossfire is about half the size of a phone booth. There's not going to be much temperature variation side to side.
My 968 has “Automatic Climate Control” and TBH, it’s the only thing I don’t like about it. The few times I’ve driven it in winter, you’ll set the temp on 25° and it will blow hot air. Right up until the inside temp hits 25° when it will start blowing cold(er) air.
The ML has it, too, but the fan is automatic as well and it seems to work much better, but my next one is going to be a 98-2000 pre-facelift version that had an old school heater and air conditioner.
@dlearl476 posted:I wish I’d never bought a car with heated seats. Now I can’t live without them.
Don’t buy a car with a heated steering wheel. You will never buy another without. You have been warned!
@LI-Rick posted:Don’t buy a car with a heated steering wheel. You will never buy another without. You have been warned!
That's 100% true. It's ridiculous how nice that is.
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What the...?
Which forum have I dropped into?
Warmed and chilled seats? Heated steering wheels?
The next thing will be how great roll-up windows are I suppose?
You guys are all getting way too soft.
@Sacto Mitch posted:The next thing will be how great roll-up windows are I suppose?
My rollup windows in the speedster are pretty nice.
I feel so inferior with my 2002 Vintage amenities.
But real men don't need heated anything. (OK, I'd like heated seats)
@Panhandle Bob posted:But real men don't need heated anything.
Says the man who ran to Florida like a scaled dog from Peoria after the coldest winter in memory.
How the hell would you wire up a heater on any kind of proper steering wheel?
Embed in the wood? Mold it into the bakelite?
@edsnova posted:How the hell would you wire up a heater on any kind of proper steering wheel?
Embed in the wood? Mold it into the bakelite?
Plutonium core should do the trick.
Oh SNAP!
@edsnova posted:How the hell would you wire up a heater on any kind of proper steering wheel?
Embed in the wood? Mold it into the bakelite?
Widder, who AFAIK pioneered heating clothing for motorcycling/snowmobiling made vests, jackets, trousers and gloves much like an electric blanket with heating element wire sandwiched between two layers of fabric.
Sometime after 2000, a company came out with garments fashioned with a conductive type of fabric that simply had a positive connection on one end and a negative on the other. The entire fabric got warm.
They weren’t around long, I have no idea what happened to them. Perhaps they didn’t work that well or weren’t durable enough
Seems like it would be pretty easy to make some plastic alloy with similar properties that would have enough resistance to low voltage to give off heat as a byproduct. (I’m not smart enough to know what I’m talking about, but I think you EEs understand what I’m trying to say)
eta: I piqued my own interest and went looking. I think this is the product.
https://www.webbikeworld.com/p...ted-clothing-review/
Above article is from 2011 but several pages list it as in stock. Whether they’re current or archived pages I don’t know. FWIW, This jacket could take top down cruising well below the 40’s. I did a 4-5 hour/35° day once on my BMW with just a widder heated vest.
Wow!
That stuff must really put out some HEAT!
That 20-something guy has been cooked enough to look like he's 60-something!! 😉
@Sacto Mitch posted:.
What the...?
Which forum have I dropped into?
Warmed and chilled seats? Heated steering wheels?
The next thing will be how great roll-up windows are I suppose?
You guys are all getting way too soft.
Mitch, I know the speedy is nothing more than a 4 wheeled motorcycle.. but when traveling along the expanse of our nations interstate system to visit distant family, friends and vacation destinations a "Soft" vehicle is highly preferred.
This one on Samba is a bit weird. Really needs a pop up cover. Won't all your fly out going down the road?
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