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Hi guys - After finally getting the time and space to get a replica I'm having big issues with how I would register a speedster in Australia if I were to build it myself. As the rules for compliance have changed It seems the best option would be to buy an older replica already registered in Australia. any offers or advice would be great.
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Or buy an older FF/CMC from US and either convert the VW pan to right hand drive using Australian parts or replace the entire pan with an Australian shortened pan. You could import the body as body parts vs a completed car - assume that might make it easier. The dash gauge eyebrow would need to be swapped along with steeringbox/H beam and pedal assembly.
We (Beck) are just finishing our prototype chassis specifically designed for ADR approval and working with a company in Australia to meet ADR and get a certification number. We did this with our Spyder many, many years ago, and as far as I know we are the only P-car replica company every to get true ADR approval. I know I've seen several companies say they were approved for Australia but when asked to provide the ADR approval number the conversation ended... Unfortunately that version of the 550S with inline VW motor is no longer available, so that is a moot point at this time, but it was done in the past and can be done again.
Anyway, it'll still be several months, but due to the latest round of ADR rule changes, I believe this will be your only option for a new build. I know there are some loopholes for an "old-timer" that has been not he road for 25 years or more, but even then, it is my understanding that they will no longer allow shortened belly pans.
Hi Chines1, That is great news about your soon to be ADR approved chassis - im sure there will be a lot of people jumping at the opportunity to finally get an approved build but as I understand this package will only be available in a turn key finish at well over $100,000. That's a far cry from the $30,000 options in the US.
As the Porsche market continues to climb to extraordinary values it seems replicas as simple as a speedster seem to be taking the same trend. But for a replica to cost the same price as an original 911 it seems difficult for me to justify spending that kind of money.
I'll just have to keep an eye out for an older replica that may pop up every now and again.
It's only money and you can't take it with you...If you have it enjoy it!
Some good advice bill- I'll have to run that one past the trouble and strife. 
I missed the part where it was north of $100K.
$100k + https://www.rennerauto.com.au/
I spoke to the owner and enquired about possibly getting one (a brand new build that will comply with all relevant ADR's for ICV approval of the Beck Speedster) The cars sound fantastic with all safety steering, suspension and comfort options with a subi engine - basic a top end custom build. But with all that it comes at a price.. but will comply with the Australian regulations.
Porsche Hunter posted:$100k + https://www.rennerauto.com.au/
I spoke to the owner and enquired about possibly getting one (a brand new build that will comply with all relevant ADR's for ICV approval of the Beck Speedster) The cars sound fantastic with all safety steering, suspension and comfort options with a subi engine - basic a top end custom build. But with all that it comes at a price.. but will comply with the Australian regulations.
I see it now!!
Really? 100K for an entry level SUBY SPEEDSTER.
.....? WOW.....the PORSCHE driven inflation is a full blown "CONTAGION"....an all encompassing , self perpetuating inflation machine that is funded at every turn by the perception of VALUE. The ease at which one can enter this craze gives the fuel to effortlessly perpetuate the CONTAGION and inflation.
. The cycle is self fulfilling as new entry is a forgone conclusuion.
Remember that he's talking $100k Australian. Today that is 0.77, which would still be high, but that includes shipping from the states as well as amortizing the certification costs.
Lane Anderson posted:Remember that he's talking $100k Australian. Today that is 0.77, which would still be high, but that includes shipping from the states as well as amortizing the certification costs.
Got it....certainly making a bit more sense with currency swing/shipping/etc. NOT quite at all BAD when considering 35 to 50K(USA) morphs into 100K(Australian).Thanks!
To clarify, there is no $30K US Beck option for a Subaru build, they start around $45K currently (bone stock Suby build), but I expect they'll be a bit higher once the new chassis is released.
Sorry Chines1 I didn't make it clear I was refereeing to 30K for a second hand one from various makers. 
Porsche Hunter posted:Hi Chines1, That is great news about your soon to be ADR approved chassis - im sure there will be a lot of people jumping at the opportunity to finally get an approved build but as I understand this package will only be available in a turn key finish at well over $100,000. That's a far cry from the $30,000 options in the US.
As the Porsche market continues to climb to extraordinary values it seems replicas as simple as a speedster seem to be taking the same trend. But for a replica to cost the same price as an original 911 it seems difficult for me to justify spending that kind of money.
I'll just have to keep an eye out for an older replica that may pop up every now and again.
Mate, the reality is, you'd be looking at 60 to 80k and more depending upon how good you want the replica to look. I sold my last IM for nearly 70k in Melbourne. It was LHD and barely as good as the new one I now have on its way to Oz. It takes a lot of commitment and 'real' desire for a Speedster. If you want and can't justify the cost of the Speedster and instead have the 911 in lieu of the cost factor, then I suggest go with the 911. I've had both an original 356B coupe and a early 70's 911. The Speedster was more fun, so much cheaper to run and turns more heads than any car I've owned. It's so funny watching annoyed 'real' Porsche and Lambo owners with their 400k cars that nobody really looks at anymore especially in Melbourne where there's one in just about every street corner..I have the replica Speedster simply because I love the design, not for 'posing' and can't or justify the 300k pricetag. I've also been in an original one, my replica has more power, handles better and will never rust 😆
My last IM.
Wow really like your current IM - black on black really sets the car up nicely. I totally understand the cost involved at getting the car to look just how you like - I think I just have to search a little harder and accept that it will take a bit of work to make it look the way I want it. Did you have any issues with importing and registering?
I imported a 996 last year with no real issues but as the speedsters are replicas I'm a bit unsure as to how customs will deal with it.
As far as I understand the build date needs to be pre 1989 and I need to obtain permission from the Gov to import it. Once its in Oz I understand I need a VASS to get it registered.. is that about it??
Yes, the build date has to be pre 1989. That's the beginning of the nightmare...finding one and being lucky enough the fibreglass shell is done well enough to pass scrutiny of the VASS Engineer is also the scary part. Not all of the old examples have held up well due to years of use/abuse/exposure and the way they were built. Ultimately, build date determines the list of requirements that will be required. The list of standard example entails, door intrusion bars, seat belt anchor points, ADR approved seat belts, ADR (Australan Design Rules) approved seats with headrests etc..etc...etc..everything must be structurally specific and executed as per VASS Engineer's design..including heights, gauge of steel etc.I know..it's a nightmare. Being an Architect and knowing structure and a lot of Engineers in my trade really helped. Get a good thick binder to put all the documents together. It is easier to build a 2 storey house. Goodluck mate and I tell you, it is all worth it in the end!
Cheers!
Thanks Al - good to hear some positive advice about it.
Here is one. Not mine.
Right hand drive but doesn't it have to be pre'89 to be eligible for Australian import?
Thanks for the link Motocarlo - it looks like it has all the bells and whistles - I couldn't see a compliance or vin date on the ad so I have emailed for more info.
fingers crossed 
MotoCarlo posted:Here is one. Not mine.
Good looking car!
One in Dublin
