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I am concerned about safety to some extent. I do not know what features the different makers have on their cars. Does anyone include a shoulder harness or airbags? I do understand that these are replica cars and not modern vehicles in many cases but I just want to be as safe as possible.
1957 Specialty Auto-Sports(Flared Speedster)
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Steve, if you "just want to be as safe as possible," a replica is not a good choice. Seat belts, four-point or three-point, aren't going to help you much in an encounter with an SUV. These are little cars without the benefit of many of the modern safety features found in Miatas, Honda S2000s, and the forthcoming Pontiac Solstices - any of which would be a better choice if safety is a top priority.
Echoing what John Leader wrote, basically, you're riding around in a plastic egg-shell, with little true protection from side impacts. Only one of the cars on this site has, to my knowlege, a side impact beam in the doors, but that may be, in my opinion, of minimal benefit in a sub-compact crash, and little or no benefit against a full-size SUV or truck (since the SUV bumper is probably higher than the door beam).

None of these cars have air bags.

While some have "roll bars", many are for decorative purposes only, and would offer no protection in a real roll-over. Some have stronger roll bars, but only a few cars have bars that would be beneficial in a roll.

Most have been fitted with a portable fire extinguisher by their owners (thankfully, they almost never get used!)

Probably half of the Speedster replicas have improved ignition systems (point-less ignition), although only a handful have modern fuel injection. Some are fitted with catalytic converters and may pass local DMV emmissions testing, but the majority are exempt, due to their age.

Some have the original "collapsible steering column" which was fitted to their donor cars starting sometime in the mid-sixties. Still, not a lot of protection, and upwards to 40 year old technology (if it was used at all).

All of the current manufacturers provide seat belts and will customize belts per customer requests. Some have 2 or 3 point seat belts installed by their owners which may or may not provide adequate protection, depending on how (and where) the belt anchors were mounted.

None of them have ABS braking, although many have newer-technology disk brakes fitted, at least to the front wheels. None of them have computer-controlled accessories (except for basic ignition control), so little goes wrong of an electronics nature.

Most have much safer (radial) tires than were fitted to the original Speedsters of their day, often somewhat larger than original , too, affording much better handling. Handling is often improved on many of the replica's by the addition of anti-sway bars, and the Speedster versions sit lower to the ground, giving a lower center of gravity for better handling, too.

All of them have the minimum safety features required by the DMV in their respective states (at least when they take them for inspection).

Having said all that, only a handful of these cars are driven every day - most are used on weekends and the occasional week day for errands and just cruising windy back roads (where the SUV's usually are few) for the pure enjoyment of it. It is still felt that driving a Speedster replica is inherently safer than riding a motorcycle (and often slower, too) and can provide a level of nostalgia, fun and excitement that can be found in no other auto of this day.

THAT's why we drive them!!

Gordon
One of the "Speedstah Guys" from Rhode Island
Safety, Ah, that was one of the first questions I raised when looking at a Speedy. I soon realized that we ourselves are our biggest safety
feature. I ALWAYS drive with my headlights on and never ride in someones blind spot, in other words just off the rear corner of the car in front. I also installed a third brake light in the rear to hopefully become a little more visible. I think our biggest enemy are SUV's with a full cargo of kids or drinking buddies. Pickups rank right up there too. We are so low in comparison to them that planning your moves well in advance is prudent. But all in all, still love the thing and nothing wrong with driving defenseably/sensibly when conditions warrent it.

Bruce
When riding on a highway and getting passed by an SUV, it's always interesting to note that you're about even with the top half of their wheel.........the rest of the SUV is far taller than you are.

Hey! Speaking of that, I went across the Newport, RI, bridge a while back. It's a toll bridge, and the toll booths are a bit higher off the ground than "normal". I practically had to stand up in the drivers seat to reach the ticket-taker-person with my money!!

gn
Vince:

Interesting you should bring that up......Local cops ticketed a fellow driving an MG in a nearby town (not mentioning any names, here, but the initials are "Newport, RI") for wearing a helmet whilst driving around town. The reason given was that his hearing was diminished and he couldn't hear the traffic around him. (huh?)

He took it to court with the position that Motorcycle riders wear them and it's OK, what's the diff?

He won.......

gn

P.S. I wonder if I could hide some killer headpones inside a helmet for my IPOD??
Hey (cappuccino boy)Mike,

When I was dinking around with my speedster, right off the delivery truck, I hit the horn...weak. I shopped around, found an old Bosche and had it installed. Better. My mechanic pulled out an air horn and smiled, "You'll love this!" Better Still.

He installed it with an old VW TypeII button on the column in addition to my Bosche... Cut to two years down the road and I encounter my first really lame SUV dame and I can't get to the air horn button as fast as I'd like or needed to!

I swapped button to wheel mount for Mr. Air Horn and have been very satisfied and although always cranky trying to see over around or through lard-ass SUV & PUtrucks etc,in the fast lane, a measure safer.

Never put the top up and drive as if you were on two wheels, and I don't mean cornering, I mean alert-wise!
Exactly. Alot of these BIG cars have a serious blind spot when they either change lanes or reverse. The blind spot is DOWN where you are. I cannot underestimate the importance of a LOUD horn. I say this as mine doesn't work. But I will fix it. I bought a GM horn that I will hook up next to the Beep-Beep horn and this will be loud enough.

Last year a lady was backing out of her driveway and with no horn and crap brakes I needed to accelerate and swerve to get out of her way. That was scary!
We just finished construction of a 3-bay garage that is now home to 4 vehicles, and it was an eye-opener regarding just how teeny Speedsters are. I have mine crammed next to an '89 Land Cruiser and sharing a bay with a '66 Land Rover, and it looks like a SMALL pile of random stuff beneath a car cover.

Luckily Speedsters- being what they are- attract a lot of attention, so I hope that other drivers see me, but I drive as if they don't.

amc
Andi:

I was building my Speedster for about ten years and got used to the size of it in my 1-1/2 bay garage/workshop. Once I got it out on the road I was almost shocked at how small it really is. Then I parked at a local Ice Cream shop near a Lincoln Navigator and the Speedy looked slightly larger than a Go-Kart.

When I drive it, however, it's exactly the right size!!

Gordon
One of the "teeny-weeny Speedstah" guys from Rhode Island
Seriously- sometimes it takes some backing up and looking at a these cars through eyes unacustomed to looking at them (as Gordon said). Every time I see my car in a parking lot, I get two sensations:

1) I think- Wow! That car is gorgeous! Who's IS that? And then I pinch myself, because it's mine, and I feel really, really blessed to be able to own it.

2) I think- Wow! That car is tiny! I need to be VERY defensive driving that thing.

I'm blessed with rural traffic since I live in a town with 2000 souls. Tremont is however, on an interstate, so we can all get to pretty far flung locations in a hurry. The good part is that there is not a lot of stop and go traffic, or commuters multi-tasking in intersections. The bad part is that in the land of the F150, every other vehicle on the road is potentially life-threatening- they are big, and they are moving quickly. I've been told that it isn't speed that kills, but the rate at which it decellerates. As on a motorcycle- paying attention is the only way to stay alive.

I wouldn't count on a speedster to keep me alive in any traffic. If I thought a lot about it, and tended to worry about such things, I'd probably buy an SUV like everybody else. Even a Miata or TT or S2000, while loaded with safety features, is considerably smaller than the average 18 wheeler, and no amount of air-bagging will change that.

I ride bicycles. Like a bicycle, a speedster exposes you to all the potential joy and harm that comes as a result of being small and in the open. I like the feeling- if it makes you uncomfortable, I'd look elsewhere for something cool to drive.
We had a tragedy near my mom's place last night. Judging by the TV footage it was a BMW 3 series and maybe a Camry or a Contour, but the only tell tale signs were a bit of ornamentation on the trunk of one...absolute carnage, three dead.
Speed probably, road weariness, probably. They did rule out alcohol.
Vulnerability comesinall shapes and sizes.
Here in Quebec it's like Athens or Rome. Everyone wants to be in front. It works if you want to go fast because the left lane is for FAST and people actually move over. Not like Ontario or New York where they stay in their lane until they get to their destination. %$#@ But, I learned a long time ago when I got hit on my motorcycle and put into a 3 day coma that offensive driving is the way to go. Defensive is usually too late. Anticipate, look both ways, repsect the lights, look in the rear view and never, never but yourself in a position that you can't steer out of.

I used this for skiing as well until some 16 year old took me out. ... ;(

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Everything Mike and George said is true. How many times have you motorcycle riders almost gotten hit and if you confront the offending person they say, "But I didn't even SEE you!"

All too true, and I found that ESPECIALLY true when I started commuting to work on a bicycle. I finally came to the conclusion, after getting hit a few times, that as soon as the wheels start to turn, you and the bike turn invisible and people will roll right over you because they don't see you.

Now, taking what Stan and I have mentioned, Speedsters are small, and people in other vehicles don't see small things. When I hosted a ramble last summer, one of the Speedsters almost got tee-boned when pulling out of a side street because someone coming toward us either didn't see him OR was so busy trying to figure out what it was they forgot stop.

Either way, the best way to drive these little cars is to keep your eyes and ears open and drive them like they're morotcycles and everyone is out to get you!
> Everything Mike and George said is true. How many times have you
> motorcycle riders almost gotten hit and if you confront the
> offending person they say, "But I didn't even SEE you!"

Sometimes it's not even that, though. In today's times of driving while talking on the phone and taking care of kids in the back seat, it's not that they didn't see you. IT'S THAT THEY DON'T TAKE THE TIME TO LOOK! Out of all of the close calls I've had on my motorcycle, at LEAST 3/4 of them were someone in an SUV or other large vehicle talking on the phone not paying attention. The attention span is just not there anymore.

It's not just while I'm on the bike, either. Even 5-10 years ago, people just seemed to pay a lot more attention to driving, and not how much stuff they had to get done _while_ they were driving.

I'm ten times the defensive driver I was when I first started driving. A lot of this has to do with riding a motorcycle, and a lot has to do with driving with a trailer pretty often. Either way though, even in the Dakota I'm not any safer because as a general rule, people simply don't pay enough attention any more.
If you want to be "safe," an 18 wheeler is always a nice touch. I have been riding motorcycles for 42 years, and aside from two low-siders, I have not had any problems. I ride as if I am invisible and watch traffic, road surface, etc., etc. Speedsters should not high-side or low-side (as with motorcycles). They might pancake, but mygod, life's a risk. I would rather die a quick death doing something I am having a ball doing, rather than in pain due to some gawdaful disease. I worked the SCCA races at Laguna Seca and other tracks in the early sixties. The two cars that had the lease "roll" around turns were the Morgans and the Speedsters. I subsequently bought two Morgan dropheads, but no Speedsters. Had a Porsche convertible for several months, but that is another boring story. I look forward to my first tub... without roll bar, ABS, side air bags or blessings from the National Traffic Safety Association.
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