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Hello gang,
How did you go about searching and finding your first speedster?

Love at first site ? Internet dating? craigslist? cheating on another car?

I've been trying to soak up lots of info here, but am still definitely in the novice stage. Do i go for entry level type of car and adjust as time goes on??

What do you guys/gals advise?

- Patrick
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Hello gang,
How did you go about searching and finding your first speedster?

Love at first site ? Internet dating? craigslist? cheating on another car?

I've been trying to soak up lots of info here, but am still definitely in the novice stage. Do i go for entry level type of car and adjust as time goes on??

What do you guys/gals advise?

- Patrick
A lot of depends:

1) How big is your wallet?
2) Where are you located?
3) How mechanically inclined are you?
4) How picky are you?

My answer:

1) Big enough to afford where I want
2) Closest to Special Edition, home of the Beck Speedster
3) Not very. No desire to build a kit or fix up a used one. Went for a turnkey.
4) Very. I believe a thing of beauty is a joy forever, and every time in my life than I got less than what I wanted, I regretted it, and eventually spent the money for what I wanted, ultimately wasting money.

If you can answer these questions, then it would be easier to point you in some directions.
excellent questions Tom,

Born and raised in Michigan, I've been obsessed with cars forever.

Location, I'm in San Diego
wallet size, I live in San Diego so that means not as thick as I'd like
* Im close to Thunder Ranch it seems, or Vintage speedsters up in Orange county

Im not too mecnanically inclined though I'd love to think I am , and would try to do things on my own .. try being the focus word.

Maybe a used vintage speedster , i'm not too picky but want to love it when i see it.

Good answers. I wouldn't buy one unless I drove one first, hence the proximity question. I'm sure that you'll get a lot of feedback now from the California contingent.

Good luck to a fellow Michigander. Mine is being built right now. If you search on my posts you will see the changes that I have put myself through specifying my build. I got a lot of help from the board. My car will truly be the Beck that the SOC spec'd.

Even though you are far away from the source of Special Edition, they do have dealers out that way. http://www.beckspeedster.com/dealerlocator.html
The price is the same whether you go direct or buy from a dealer and the Hines family stands behind their product.

I can't speak highly enough about Carey and Kevin Hines and the way they have treated me. You just can't get better customer service than that. They may be a little smaller company and their cars may cost a hair more, but their craftmanship and passion for these vehicles far outweigh those considerations. Check them out at www.beckspeedster.com and also check out this youtube video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKhP5RpkAPg

I recommend you search on different makers and see what folks on this board have said. I think that you will find Special Edition mentioned many many times over very favorably.
Thanks Tom for the info, and thanks to everyone for putting in their .02

Beck was the first speedster company I came across when i was searching for reps ( in the past ) . Though it seems like this will take a while before I can call one my own ( unless I just impulse ;) buy ). I just dont want to regret buying the wrong car for me.


Driving one will most likely put me over the edge .. to fully drink 'the madness' juice. ( im looking forward to it actually )

Engine configurations and proper set ups. What do i need to avoid? I know its sorta 31 flavors like , but a middle of the road set up perhaps?




"I wouldn't buy one unless I drove it first"--Tom, then you would never have bought the car I bought! Mine is a VS I found in Monroe, LA w/ 800 miles on it. It was gorgeous (I thought at the time) and I
bought it on the spot--AFTER handing the seller 240 $100 bills.

I could drive it only 50 mph on the 200 mile trip back to my home in Hot Springs, AR. The wheels were out of balance becsuse no one in Monroe could balance a "wide 5" and the front end was way out of line
thus, the awful ride.

Getting Manton's plate to balance these wheels, buying an alignment tool and doing the alignment in my garage, installing a camber compensator and a front bar plus deflating the tires from 45# to a proper psi and the car now drives and rides like silk, and like it was on rails.

The point is that these cars are a work in progress---that's why it's called "the madness". Also the reason so many great Speedsters are dumped with just a few miles on them.

You either have to enjoy them so much that you are willing to put in the time and effort to get them like you want 'em yourself or be close to the manufacturer and pay him to sort it out and make whatever improvements you want.

Oh--I found mine on ebay.
We were actually going to build a Cobra first. We even ordered an assembly manual for a Everett Morris. Excellent manual, by the way, around an inch thick and extremely detailed. We were foolish enough to assume that all replica cars came with such comprehensive build instructions - LOL!!!

Anyway, the Cobra just started to seem really common. The spyder was rarer and much more beautiful. The problem was that we werent' interested in a T1 or a T4 (subie wasn' big at the time). Well, one builder was experimenting with the 911 six. Big time fans of that engine.

Steve flew down and Met Tom McBurnie in person, got the tour of the shop, etc. Steve and Tom hit it off instantly and that's who we bought the kit from. It is chassis #2 of the 550 six.

angela
I scanned the Cobra sites for several years, but was close to deciding that they would never be in my budget. I had looked at Spyders waaaay back when Chuck Beck first started, and looked at them for a bit more, but they seemed a little impractical for me. I started looking at Speedsters (oddly, I had never really liked them before) when I ran across this site. After exchanging a few emails, I decided to join the crowd at Carlisle '05, where I made what I hope are some friends for life. I saw some beautiful cars, met some great people, and decided that this was the perfect hobby for me - except for that pesky budget thing. As I was trying to figure out how to convince Pam I needed a used one, Carey Hines and Gordon Nichols approached me about the '06 Carlisle show build idea. The rest is history.
I had a "small" interest in these cars and found the Forum. I read about what you all had to say for a couple of weeks and decided I needed to find out what these "kit cars" were really all about. Admittedly I did not expect much. I saw a car offered in Florida by SOC member John Legate (a straight shooter and a real gentleman), contacted him by phone and made a deal ... sight unseen, taking his word for condition,etc, etc. I had it shipped to Colorado and .... long story shortened ... have never had a better or more fun purchase. It changed my mind about replicas and the people who drive them (well, OK, not about Vince!)

I have also found that Kirk & Mary (Vintage Speedsters), Kevin and Carey (Beck); Henry (Intermechanica) and John(JPS Speedsters) all all good people to deal with and will offer lots of help regardless of the make you choose. What a great fellowship of interest and support!

I can only say that if you are considering one just go for it. You will not be disappointed.

Happy Trails,
Dusty and the always smiling LMS
I first noticed Speedster replicas way back when CMC was still displaying them in airport lobbies. I purchased a flared kit from CMC in 1988 and took until 1993 to get it built and licensed for the road. Wish there would have had been Internet forums back then! I still own and drive the same car today.

Unless you want to take the time and effort to build your own, my recommendation would be to start with one that is already built and well built to get an idea of the car and what you like. Visit the different manufacturer's shops and talk to owners of the various manufactiurers. Then join the fun.

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OK, I'll try to do this without getting all sappy....short version..
Always been a car guy (finned Mopars, from the 50's)
and Concourse Judge. So I was a purist (when it came to cars)
Had a real coupe for a short period of time back in the 70's (roommate needed money, so I bought it from him)
Wife (Teri) hated riding behind me on the Harley (early 90's) so I did a little research and came up with these little guys (always liked the real ones, but couldn't afford of course)
Big bang for the buck....bought a used Vintage (MR356) and then got into you guys (West coasters, not you wierdo's from the other coast)
I do not usually keep a car for long, so after about 5 years I sold MR356, wife cried, so I bought "El Diablo"...
I need to add that if it weren't for this great group (SOC) to cruise with, I'd be into something else by now...
These are all great stories behind finding your first cars.
I have a love for cars, and I think for me, finding a good fun group of people to share this with is important.

When I had my mustang yrs ago in Michigan it was fun and dangerous.

The Porsche club here is very active but I wasn't active.

I have a great love for classic cars , this looks to be just what I need. Hope to join along soon.
chuck beck send me a spyder brochure in the 1980s.

spent some time in the 1990s at annual events nearby at laguna seca, up north in san leandro, and way south at knott's talking to guys/gals who had becks, cmc, intermeccanica, vintage, and other great rides...

drove a beck with a 2165 t1 and joined your great groups in 2007.

started compiling good advice and a wish list...

obtained blessings and encouragement from my excellent wife..

visited thunder ranch in 2008, and visited special edition in 2009.





I had been looking for a rag top sports car for a while, as I had never had a rag top of any kind and had come to that tough point in life where the self talk goes like this: if not now, then never. Miata came up first, and the R8, then Z4, also Boxster, Honda 2000, and the Saturn thing and maybe even the Pontiac. Never got anywhere: too cramped, too costly, no stying, one thing or another. Ran hot then cold on the whole thing for a couple of years. One day while waiting for a plane, I bought a Road & Track, or some such w/ idea of looking at the ads in the back for what sort of tires could I get for my Camry. Found lots of stuff there, and while flipping the pages a 1/4 page ad flashed by and old synapses quickly recorded what I saw: a Speester. Say what???!!! Someone selling a Speedster?? You gotta be kidding. [OK here I have to insert that I had a friend in high school that had a '57 Speedster and I spent a lot of time in its right seat. As a consequence of that experience, when I finally went to buy my first car after college ('66) it was a '56 A Coupe, thoroughly trashed, for $600. Later, when the rust finally brought this car to its knees, I got a '61 S90, in much nicer shape, used, for about $2K, as I recall. That one got very rusty too over the years, and being too poor to afford a rebuild (house, kids), ended up selling it.] So I flip back to the ad, which is from JPS. Speedster kit-car. Well holy sh--, imagine that -- I had no idea. And so I began to make inquiries, found the SOC, visited JPS at the N. Hollywood "factory", and pulled the trigger. This little toy car is very cool and all the other cars mentioned above can't hold a candle to it.
Kelly,

Thanks for the story , just got out of a Boxster S myself, and I thoroughly love that car for what it is and does, .... I want to fill in that x factor. Are you happy with a car from JPS? Did you buy it turn key, a car already done, or did you option one up?

Im patiently waiting to see anyone of these replicas up close to completely confirm what I want to do.

Patrick
Patrick,

First off, I see you are in San Diego, so you have way many cars/people near you to go see and touch and, maybe, drive. You can use the SOC here to sort by zip code those closet to you. Maybe that will help. If not told already, you should attend the Morro Bay gathering in CA or the Carlisle meet in PA in the spring. This is how you get to see it all, talk to everyone and discover better what will work for you.

I ordered my car turn-key, and worked with JPS (in North Hollywood) to add in the options and features I thought important. In my case that was the high displcement (2332 cc) motor (I like speed and accelerration), big Webers, the beefier so-called Pro-street trans, IRS vs. swing axle, disc brakes, driving lights and stiff sway bars. And of course the colors for paint and interior. Also, I opted for the hybrid tube-frame version that JPS offers, vs. strictly pan-based. I wanted a car that would perform and handle at as high a level as the basic JPS design would allow. As I recall my "research", I was unable to distinguish between the makers by anything other than price and delivery schedule, except that I did come to understand that Intermechanica stands alone and above the rest wrt how far the build can go. Since then, I have learned yet more about the builders and seen/riden/driven a few of the other builders products and personally met and spoken with them. I have had some quality control issues w/ my JPS, and most have been sorted out and the car is very nice, and am very pleased with it on balance. John Steele at JPS has, generally, worked with me in supplying information and parts on a warranty basis to resolve my issues. I am told all of these cars have a period of sorting out when new, and some things go better than others. In my case, I am a bit of a wrench, so taking stuff apart and working on the cars is not a big issue for me. If I had to find a mechanic to do all that was needed (JPS is on CA and I am in MD) the process of sorting would have been very difficult indeed. But that seems pretty much behind me now. All of the builders, in their own ways, stand behind their products and generally bend over backwards to be sure all is right. Some do this even if you bought the car used, vs. new from them directly. I think maybe if doing all over again, I might try the Beck, although the issues of delivery and cost would again have to be examined and factored in and I do not know precisely how those stack up head-to-head today. All of that said, if money and time were no object (BIG if) I would have Henry at IM build me one of his 911 based cars. To me, that would be the ultimate Speedster: all Porsche 911 running gear, vs. VW, full tube frame construction, and Henry's fit and finish. None better. But bring plenty of money (at least 3X the basic Speedster price, I guess), and be aware of how to get it out of Canada and registered where you live.
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