Trying to figure out how not to build a silver car. I’m kind of liking this. Kind of a “classy Outlaw “. I’m even liking the cloth seats.
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Ooooo, yes I like that, Phil!
looks like stone gray...gorgeous color
I'm in the "Anything Emory Produces is Awesome" club.
-=theron
Stone grey has a bit of green in it. I’m sure this is a modified color. Emory does a lot of standard colors such as GT silver but he also modifies classic Porsche colors. And of course he will never divulge the true recipe for the color. However there is a Toyota color called “quicksand “ that is very close.
You mean "Taliban Tan". LOL
The Toyota color doesn't have the richness of that Emory color. Either that, or that Emory photographer can make chicken salad out of chicken sheat. That Emory color is pretty damn nice.
It would be a good idea to stick to a color with an actual color code to it that can be duplicated in the future for touch ups. Me thinks.
I'm in the "I love MOST of what Emory produces" club.
Silver is boring....does that help?
Nice..the color reminds me of a chocolate smoothie......
Someone here has one of the Belgian 356 D’leteren Roadsters with similar seats.
@Carlos G posted:You mean "Taliban Tan". LOL
The Toyota color doesn't have the richness of that Emory color. Either that, or that Emory photographer can make chicken salad out of chicken sheat. That Emory color is pretty damn nice.
It would be a good idea to stick to a color with an actual color code to it that can be duplicated in the future for touch ups. Me thinks.
I'm in the "I love MOST of what Emory produces" club.
I think the Emory car has a bit more brown.
It's not bad, but I'll never own anything in the brown family.
Toyota's gray has too much green in it. I like the gray on the Honda Civic R though(Sonic Gray Pearl).
And I'm with Carlos, that one 356 that had the back look like it was wearing a 356 mask? Nope, not for me, that was a fugly mistake.
Too tan/brown. I like the classic stone grey with right color interior --- a plum color 
pleather.
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That’s Scott Sloan’s old IM. That car set the standard for Outlaw perfection for years even before Emorymania.
Yes it did. @Joe Fortino's car is also stone gray (I think).
@Lane Anderson yes it is, as you can see from the pics depending on light the color flop is pretty amazing.
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I almost bought Sloan’s car when I bought my water cooled IM. 2nd owner had it for sale. It had about 30k miles on it at that time. Bought the water cooled IM with the hard top instead with about 8k miles. I should have bought Sloan’s car and refreshed the engine. I’d probably still have it. Woulda, shoulda, coulda. Who knows. I’m always trying to fix old mistakes.
Don't beat yourself up too much. It only took three tries to get the Spyder right.
@DannyP posted:Don't beat yourself up too much. It only took three tries to get the Spyder right.
Yup. But I definitely got this one right. Hopefully the second try will get the 356 right.
You know I’ve sold 2 spyders, an intermeccanica and a Caterham Super 7. I think I’ve lost less than $10k from owning those cars. Truly worth it for all the fun I had. If I were to sell my current 2018 Spyder I’d probably make $15-20k. But like Danny said it took me a long time to get it right. I think I’ll keep it.
I used to say they are rolling 401Ks, but the recent market downturn makes them more like a fixed rate Money Market account.
Just so there is no confusion I'm not the same Sloan who owned the car Phil referred to in his post.
Scott Sloan's car was the inspiration for my build, but impossible to replicate. It is beautiful. I got a color sample of the Porsche 5710 Stone Grey from Willhoit and had the paint mixed locally. Like Joe said above, the color is very different in different lighting. IMHO Stone Grey represents a German car from the 50's very well.
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Agree with you there Stan. Artistic license is one thing but I think he went too far with that one. Nothing artistic about that car what so ever.
I’m actually glad I had to wait a while before I built my car. Maybe not 2.5 years. I originally was going to go full outlaw with no bumpers, imbedded Marchal fog lights and a Pegasus. But know I think I’m going with something simpler with a classic look. Who knows. A lot can happen in the next 1.5 years.
Maybe it isn't pretty, but I wouldn't turn it down if'n he wanted to give it to me.
@Stan Galat posted:Um...
Even this one?
I'm in that club as well.
Why do I always see this image when I look at that car:
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I was on record hating on that car even as Rod was papering the world with "check this out!!!!" posts all over social media, and when R&T (et al) were fawning all over it.
It looks like Frankenstein's 356 that was rear-ended by a dump truck, then kitted by somebody who really, really wanted a Honda Civic with a fart-can but had to settle for this junky kraut-car.
It's ugly in a way that's hard to overstate. Brutally, hideously, acne-scarred ugly.
Scott Sloan's car, OTOH, is simplicity distilled to it's base elements. Nobody has ever done more with less.
@Joe Fortino's car has better paint. I've seen and ridden in both. Joe's car is an absolute home run.
@Stan Galat posted:I was on record hating on that car even as Rod was papering the world with "check this out!!!!" posts all over social media, and when R&T (et al) were fawning all over it.
It looks like Frankenstein's 356 that was rear-ended by a dump truck, then kitted by somebody who really, really wanted a Honda Civic with a fart-can but had to settle for this junky kraut-car.
LOL. That is a perfect description of that 356. Mine was,Oh look Darth Vaders Foreskin on a 356 coupe
Ok, I get that it's not traditional. However, hanging twin turbos out the back instead of a bumper is fine with me. I'd find a place in my garage for an abomination like that.
It looks like the Lego version of a 356, assembled by a 6 year old unsure of where all the pieces were supposed to go.
@Stan Galat posted:I was on record hating on that car even as Rod was papering the world with "check this out!!!!" posts all over social media, and when R&T (et al) were fawning all over it.
It looks like Frankenstein's 356 that was rear-ended by a dump truck, then kitted by somebody who really, really wanted a Honda Civic with a fart-can but had to settle for this junky kraut-car.
It's ugly in a way that's hard to overstate. Brutally, hideously, acne-scarred ugly.
Scott Sloan's car, OTOH, is simplicity distilled to it's base elements. Nobody has ever done more with less.
@Joe Fortino's car has better paint. I've seen and ridden in both. Joe's car is an absolute home run.
Stan and I can disagree on this one. I can appreciate that car for what it was intended to be and I find it to be an aggressive utilitarian purpose built 356. It was never intended to be beautiful. It was intended to be in your face fast and it incorporates some very specific engineering to make it handle incredibly well. It obviously has twin turbos because you can see them, a sequential 5-speed gearbox, coiler suspension, center-lock MOMO wheels, Porsche 935 hubs, and it produces 395 hp from an engine built from a sand cast 4 cylinder case built and finished by Rothsport. Rothsport also supplied the EFI system that feeds fuel to the motor. This one was definitely function over form and after it was all cobbled together I can tell you I like it.
Thankfully it's a big tent so I can sit over in the corner for those who like it and I can play a good game of solitaire. And if Stan lets me I can still come over to his corner for a beer.
The function WAY over form thing is the trouble here.
I get why Emory did it that way, and I'll bet I'd LOVE to drive it.
I just don't want it or want to look at it.
I figure since I'd be driving from the inside the looks wouldn't matter to much to me.
@Robert M posted:Thankfully it's a big tent so I can sit over in the corner for those who like it and I can play a good game of solitaire. And if Stan lets me I can still come over to his corner for a beer.
They're in the garage fridge right now. The door is always open for any of you.
Forgive the Miller - I'm a hick-town white-trash juvenile delinquent from flyover country. There's Fat Tire laying down up on top. If you want an IPA, you're on your own.
Snooty beer is in the house.
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@Lane Anderson posted:I figure since I'd be driving from the inside the looks wouldn't matter to much to me.
Then why bother with a 356 at all? There are faster cars for a lot less money.
I won't disagree, but I got into this hobby because of the cool people I met at Carlisle in 2005. It's not always a logical decision.
@Stan Galat posted:They're in the garage fridge right now. The door is always open for any of you.
Forgive the Miller - I'm a hick-town white-trash juvenile delinquent from flyover country. There's Fat Tire laying down up on top. If you want an IPA, you're on your own.
Snooty beer is in the house.
No IPAs for me thank you. I do love a beer we have here called Cali Squeeze Blood Orange. It's a wheat beer made from blood oranges. It was started by a small town brewery named SLO Brew and it was in San Luis Obispo. They started a line of beers called Cali Squeeze and made one with blood oranges, one with mango, and one they call P.O.G. which is made from passion fruit, orange, and guava. They grew the line until Firestone, the brewers of 805, bought up the line for a lot of money. Thankfully they have changed nothing about the beer and it still tastes just as good as when SLO Brew started it. That's as fancy as I get. Otherwise I love Mexican Lagers.
@Robert M posted:Otherwise I love Mexican Lagers.
You will notice the Dos Equis longnecks in there. Come on over, man. The A/C is on in the shop.
@Lane Anderson posted:I won't disagree, but I got into this hobby because of the cool people I met at Carlisle in 2005. It's not always a logical decision.
Yeah, but that argument kind of falls apart as it relates to the Franken-mobile.
I'm not picking on you in particular, Laner - I've just always been at a loss as to why this car was ever considered cool. It's as ugly as a mud fence, as expensive as a decent house in my part of the world, and a C7 ZO6 would leave it for dead on the track.
It's just a mismatched collection of parts. It has none of the grace that attracts me to 50s/60s race cars. The only thing worse than the nose is the hideous hindquarters that look like an animal bit off its butt and a witch-doctor sewed it back on as best he could.
Stan wrote: They're in the garage fridge right now. The door is always open for any of you............ Beer will attract neighbors and people you don't even know who after consumption of said free beers will become your new best and very loud friends for the immediate future. Said neighbors and new fiends have a tendency to forget about time and the general direction to the exit door and will not leave anytime soon. I also discovered that it's in your best interest not to provide any type of comfortable garage seating, or the realization of them finally leaving by 11pm will go all to hell in a hand basket and I got nothing done. For those reasons, I finally did get rid of my mini beer 'frig, the tattered and torn love seat and made cardboard cut outs the size of my windows to block out the shop lights ....So now you know how could build a speedster in 10 to 12 weeks :~)
Y'all realize that a lot of said Mexican beer was brewed by ex-Nazis who fled Germany after the war? South America and Mexico is chock-full of honest-to-goodness German Lagers.
Good stuff!
Although I used to be an all-around beer aficionado, I can't drink IPA anymore, it hurts. Actual pain in the stomach. Regular beer is fine, hoppy beer=pain.
Sours are just disgusting. I would happily drink any of the beer in Stan's fridge.
Tonight I had a couple Stella Artois, a bunch of guys retired at my former job. A good time was had.