What is an old 84 CMC speedster replica worth?

I'm looking into buying an 84 CMC speedster replica in very poor condition. The interior would need to completely be replaced. Engine is shot. It would need all new chrome and rubber. I need to get more info on the condition of the pan.

What's something like this worth?

Thanks.

A nice clean running CMC would bring say $12-16k - depending on location, time of year, color and engine/trans specs. So first ? is can you do the work yourself - or will you be paying someone $90/hr to do the work?

Re-do interior - a new tan upholstery kit just sold for $250 - new to have made might be $500-800. Add another couple hundred for carpet. If it needs a new top and tonneau then add $500 more.

Not much chrome - tail lights and windshield posts $200.

Engine shot? Most are low mileage - could just need a new battery and carb cleaning. Or could have a broken valve or crank. So $100 to $1000. (If dual carbs they're worth $300-800).

Rubber - Tires are $400 with other rubber trim maybe another $100.

Even if floor pans are rusted away - new ones are under $200.

CMC are durable gelcoat finish - that looks original and it'll buff out to like new.

Wide 5 chrome wheels are nice addition.

Does it have a good title and how is it registered?

All estimates are parts only. There are many hours to be added in.

Look on classifieds here to get better idea. Just a body kit was posted for $10k recently --- it would take an added $3k chassis/tires/engine/trans to begin build on that one.

email dr clock

All great points above!!

One thing you might consider is what you're looking for. If you want a project, this is a great start, assuming the price is right and you can do most of the work yourself. Are you looking for a pristine end result? or can you live with a little 'patina'? If you are not looking for a project and in fact do want a pristine end result, you may be dollars ahead buying what you want and just holding off for a good deal. I've seen some fantastic buys in the mid to upper teens.

One thing to remember; parts and labor (if you need to hire someone) are usually not negotiable but buying a used car from an owner who needs to move it, especially in this economy, is very negotiable. Keep that in mind, if you do go for the project one too; selling an un-running vehicle that needs interior in this market, maybe more, brakes, pan, etc., is not an easy deal. Your buyers decrease rapidly, take advantage of that, you can always increase your offer.

From the pictures and your describtion, I personally would be in the 7.5 to 8k range. If I fell in love with it, it had the guages I wanted, and the pan was good, I may go a little higher. If it can't be started and driven, you have to assume the worst, that goes with the complete drive line.

Dave

I'm thinking $3500-4500....needs everything to one degree or another

My experience with builds tells me you are looking at an easy $10k to redo that speedster ... ~Alan

Thank you to all who have replied. All very good points.

I'm looking for a project, and I'd be doing all the restoration work myself. I'm not in any rush to complete the build, it would be on the weekends and late weeknights in order to get out of the house.

So, a deal on a CMC fiberglass tub with some usable chassis parts would be about $3-5k? Should I expect to pay more? Less?

Thanks.

Looking at a rolling chassis with a body and windshield..Not sure if it would need a top side curtains and boot cover but does need a complete interior, the chrome and rubber items.
What it's worth depends on how much of the work you are willing to tackle yourself. The overall condition and if you are planning to keep it or flip it in the near future. Considerations include pans, frame head, axle beam, brake system, wheels & tires, wiring, gauges and any fiberglass stress cracks. A complete overhaul for a first timer, you can figure 250 - 300 hours. Best to do tis do this, figure your bottom line as to what you are willing to pay for this project and add another $7-10k to that.. W ith some searching you can buy a used turn key driver in that range. ~Alan

When I buy a project car, there's a big price difference between a project that runs/drives and one that does not. Don't listen to "it ran fine when it was parked." Starts and drives TODAY or consider it a non-runner and bid low.

Let's assume that this won't run/drive but has a solid pan. Something in the $3500 to $4500 is in my opinion reasonable. Low price because it's a pig in a poke. Might just have bad fuel/plugged carbs, might have a seized engine with so much internal damage that you just scrap the engine...

If it will run/drive even in shabby condition, I would pay as much as $5 or 6 for it. Sure, sure, to make it pristine, you can spend a fortune. But you might make a decent "driver quality" for the price of tires, minor tune-up parts and your own labor. Then as the bug bites your and you need "winter projects" you can tackle the interior etc. Best buys are the ones that pop up here or on Samba. Interiors are swapped out for color, etc., pretty regularly. Keep your eyes open, drive it as-is and do upgrades when the right deal comes along.

As Alan pointed out, don't get over the value of buying a nice out outright. Speedstahs, like alot of other cool toys, are cheap to buy in a bad economy...

Just my 2 centavos.
angela

i would look for a driver, nice but no car show winner. you will end up spending the same amount of money and not have all the AGGRAVATION of wrong parts, not the right tool, no time, wife bitching,sleepless nights, etc.

Some may find it hard to put out $22k+ on a new or slightly used one. Just try to get a car loan on a toy Speedster. Many can, however,put out an initial $6k and then buy restore parts with a credit card here and there (hiding it from the wife - who still thinks its only the $6k "invested"! Plus you save sales tax on a $22k+ vehicle. Add to that unless you have new car custom built you end up settling on someone else's choices. Plus theres the joy of building it with you own hands -- turning ever nut and screw. Ya just miss the joy of driving it while it gets built. If you can't do work yourself though, buy the best you can afford as you'll save in long run.