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I am just curious cause I not heard of any problems at pickup or shortly thereafter (and there may be none) but, I am wondering if any or you guys/gals have had any problems and required adjustments or fix directly after the pickup or within the first year?
The intent here is NOT repeat NOT meant to start a flamer. While I have heard other requiring tweaks,adjustments and a few disasters like the guy who bought the Beck where nothing was right and Chip got involved.
I would like to compare my own experince (although I am not certain anyone tried to drive away 15 mins after the build was complete like I did (which was dumb and dumber and which Saw requested I not do!)
And please Ward try to contan yourself from feeling this is a personal attack cause it isn't your car is gorgeous.
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I am just curious cause I not heard of any problems at pickup or shortly thereafter (and there may be none) but, I am wondering if any or you guys/gals have had any problems and required adjustments or fix directly after the pickup or within the first year?
The intent here is NOT repeat NOT meant to start a flamer. While I have heard other requiring tweaks,adjustments and a few disasters like the guy who bought the Beck where nothing was right and Chip got involved.
I would like to compare my own experince (although I am not certain anyone tried to drive away 15 mins after the build was complete like I did (which was dumb and dumber and which Saw requested I not do!)
And please Ward try to contan yourself from feeling this is a personal attack cause it isn't your car is gorgeous.
I had absolutely no issues with my car as delivered. Henry personally test drives every car that leaves his studio. They are road tested, shaken down and tweaked as necessary before deliveries or pick-ups. In fact, oil is changed and valves adjusted following that so the cars are virtually road-ready.

I would bet too that any problems that were to surface would be quickly rectified by Intermeccanica. Personal service is what they are all about.

Other's experience might be different, but I have had first-class treatment from the very beginning . . . concept to three years and 12k miles later.
In 2001 I flew to Vancouver to drive the IM that Henry built for me. It was a dark and rainy night and my first drive in a speedster. The only problems I recall were; I did not like the color of the radio pod (same color red as the interior, I asked and Henry did paint it black to match the dash color), the brakes felt to spongy and the pedal seem'd to be to low, the heater did not seem to work.

All was corrected when the car showed up at my house a couple of weeks later.

Another problem I had was because I failed to tighten the front height adjustment after lowering the car and it slipped while on a 356 club tour. My fault, and Henry sent the parts I needed to fix it. That adjustment bolt is now safety wired and my wife always asks "did you tighten the nuts?" whenever I work/play on the car.
Dale, so very minor stuff as one might expect with a new build.
I appreciate your honest and candid answer.
Scott good for you trouble free and no issues since.
50-50 however, Dale you just minor tweaks which Iwould not put into the catagory of an issue fair?
It will be interesting to see how the numbers stack up when additional IM owners comment if they choose to.
Thank you to both of you for your honesty and candor.
Stuart, I would not consider those issues and definitly not delivery issues. The brakes were bled again after I drove the car. It was some of those micro bubbles that require a couple of bleeds before they are all out. The heaters were not working because it was so cold and the engine did not get warmed up much. Every thing was fine when I took delivery. The purpose of my trip to Vancouver was to check out the car and look for anything I wanted/needed changing. Like the red radio pod. At the time it was normal for Henry to put the same upholstery on the pod as the interior color. It did not match my "taste" so I asked for a change, and it was done.

With two of us checking in, I'd say the data is pretty irrelevant.

Also I am having a hard time understanding the sentance that starts 50/50?



I agree all around. You will see from my post I did NOT sense that they were issues.
50-50 refers to few minor pre-delivery tweaks for you nothing for Scott.
I also agree with only 2 owners out of say probably 50 responding the data is irrelevant.
Lets see what others have to say if they post???
Again thanks for your input.
Hmmmm?
Three responses out of + or - 70 or so IM owners/members.

I think it fair to say all would agree IM is a high quality build with an excellent track as we typically hear good things all around.

For whatever reason this thread has not gotten enough responses from IM owners/members to create meaningful pool of data???

It is a bit puzzling as there are a number of IM owners on the site who are typically very vocal on any number of topics especially relative to other manufacturers cars in addition to their own. I mistakenly assumed these same folks would jump at the opportunity to collect data on their own manufacturer.
Oh well. Onward and upward.
Once again Scott Dale and John thanks for your response
Dude,
Anyone who reads the review by the respective owners should get a sense of the what, why and how from maker to maker. I think you've been on this site long enough to know that if someone gets their panties in a bunch, they'll be posting about it.

Truth be told, seems anytime anyone says something good about their IM the boo-birds come out. Flip side of that seems there just isn't a lot to report.The IM guys seem to be able to resolve any issues with their builder and are mature about it. The result, not a lot of wasted time, effort or thread whining.

Next topic
Paul: Point well made and taken.
I think IM is a great car as are many other makes and models. Hell Thunder Ranch has won awards as I am sure other makes have as well including IM probably.
No further comment on the issue.

It seems however the same individuals specifically and repeatedly "dump" on other manufacturers with impunity as if they actually know what they are talking about. You may or may have not noticed these exchanges. Same offenders all the time so it hard to miss.

Seems to me there is room for all kinds of makes and models including owners.

Once again, I appreciate your comments.
The purpose here was not to get a flamer going... I was actually curious based upon my own experince and poor judgement which allowed my desire to take the car versus letting it being tested as would have been appropriate. Chalk it up to my first timer stupidity.
I never thought the the same A_ _H_ _ _'s would comment on their own experince. They are to interested in starting fires elsewhere and peeing on them cause they like the smell
Enough said by me point made.
I am sure a beauty wil follow however.


Stuart,

You're right about taking a car before it has been properly tested. It happened to me as well.
But it won't happen with an Intermeccanica. I know Henry Reisner and I've had the opportunity to drive and inspect several of his cars. Henry won't release a car until he has tested it to a point of redundancy. He insists on having his customers "involved" throughout the build. And once you get your car you get Henry as well. Every IM owner I know is a friend of Henry's. I consider Henry a friend and I don't own an IM.....yet.
Scott:
The element discussed plays ambush games all the time. Where ya been buddy?
That being said, the question posed was sincere. The intent was not to start a flamer.
The response or lack thereof surprising given the observations so freely made with a consistent pattern of slander.
I do not debate IM as a manufacturer or as a high quality product which is apparent.
To Terrys point he and I have made the same mistakes which it appears we would not have been permitted to at IM. That is a fair comment.
What I do question quite openly is the integrity of the little click already discussed enough.
I am not offended by stupid little boy comments like "no one likes you" which well again enough said all around on the topic.
Stuart, you posed the question, why were more IM owners not responding to your poll regarding problems with their cars after delivery.

Other than the obvious answer that there were no problems to report, I posed a perfectly legitimate additional supposition, maybe people don't like you? For that you call me names.

Look we all feel terrible you bought the wrong brand of car, but you have to let it go. Just put that dog up for sale and with the money you realize, I am pretty sure you can find a nice used IM. Worst case, there are a number of really nice used JPS or Vintage cars that come up for sale on these very forums, any one of those will probably help with this persecution thing you got going on in that noggin.
I am trying to stay out of this IM discussion, but its killing me to hear this load of crap.....
Stuart may have been baiting some IM owners, (it DID sound that way to me) but To say we don't like him, Bill S. I will decide who I like, you don't need to do that for me.....Thank you
You drive an IM and that gives you some sort of credibility, I don't think so.....Bill your out of line....
Once again, the IM is the Rolls Royce of Replica speedsters, you pay the price NOT to have the problems....It appears most of the problems are from re-sellers not necessarily manufacturers....
If anyone is separating the group, it appears to be a few IM owners,
Perhaps you should start your own site, like the stiffs who left last year...you sound more like a bunch of Yuppie a-holes........
god knows you need a small fortune to own one of those things...
But thats just my opinion.....If I had the money I wouldn't buy one just on General Principal......
Bill:

Pretty arogant and brave comments for the interntet.
No one called you a name however a characterization of your imature behaviour/comment was certainly made.
You guys spend what you spend for what is recognized by all as a quality product and you are certainly entitled to spend what ever you want however, a few of you feel because you own an IM as part of the ownership or price of purchase you are freely allowed you to crap on other peoples cars or manufacturers.
I do not say this of all IM owners just the few in the group who consitently are threatened by any new product introductions which may or maynot affect a re-sale value.

You guys and you know who you are cause you strategize amongst yourselves (a mole in your group has exsposed you due to the particulary nasty s_ _t you guys pull to whit he is uncomfortable with)

Steeeeeel yourself Bill. You conduct is not very flattering to you nor IM. Even if you were one of the fat boys in school that got slapped going down the hallway in school (if that or something like it was the case)you are a man now and you don't have to be a pr_ _ k to people around due to what might have been your unfortuante past.

I restate my position IM is a good car with few BAD owners possessing little integrity.

I have had some issues with my car which which I have been very honest about. Those issues have been resolved by a thughtful and responsive Manufacturer in Specialty Auto Works. There are a number of SAW cars which are running very well on the road. Thje SAW product may or may not set the stage for further affordable developments in the Replica Speedster market. As a new concept it may even have to have some bugs worked out.
Think of this Windows constantly has bugs being worked out however it owns the market.
By the way Jim I applaud your restraint!
Bill,
That is a completely crumby thing to say. Perhaps it is time to rethink your own attitude. You obviously have the personal wealth to buy whatever you want and to spend all the $$ you wish to upgrade it. I am really happy for you but your attitude sucks and the personal attacks are totally uncalled for.

I don't mean this as a personal attack towards you just an assessment of what I read.

Troy
Bill not angry in the slightest.
You are a one of those unfortunate very sad very little men. Seen your picture.
For such a little man with such a big mouth you are pretty brave on the internet as well.
Your retraction regarding SAW is appropriate. The rst of your banter speaks for itself.
Your attempt at insults ain't slick and the stupidity of your comments is embarassing.
Like I said, another little man with a big mouth who trys to get bigger at the expense of others. Your like right out of Lord of the flies.
I am not angry at someone such as you I feel sorry for you dude.
Stuart,
Had wonderful driving experience with my 2005 IM Speedster.
Henry test drove the car for several hundred miles ( changed oil adjusted valves etc ) before we picked up the car in Vancouver. Put 3500 problem free miles on road trip home. Originally the brake pedal seemed a little soft, once brakes beded in, problem went away.
Troy, I have to say, I really appreciate you telling me that wasn't a personal attack.

Stuart, just keep saying to yourself, "They don't dislike me because I drive a SAW, they dislike me for who I am as a person", "These "Clicks" are in my head, they don't really exist at all.. " In time, if that doesn't work, I am sure you will have no trouble finding a therapist in NYC.
Stuart, I don't get your problem. I only post about IMs because that's what I know about. But most of the guys that own IMs owned something else first. Some have owned two makes of Speedsters before getting their IMs. That makes them qualified to talk about IMs, and whatever other car they have owned.

If you don't like Bill's comments, you shouldn't have started this stupid thread. As I see it Stuart, you are a trouble maker, and deserve all the abuse you get.

What's with the comment that Thunder Ranch cars have won awards? Those awards were BOUGHT by Bill George's own admission.


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