32 K Kilometers and I need a new clutch When I attach the hoist is it safe to run the straps front to back under the cylinders or side to side on the front of the engine. Of course the tin an intakes will be removed.
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i think it has to drop not go up. We used to get ass of bug end up high on jackstands,Chipper underneath doing four nuts,me im on top undoing gas, electrics, etc. Then place 3-4 tires underneath,pull on exhaust pipes and its off..then wiggle engine out..This was early 60s, we got $20(alot of money then) for 15 minutes work tops..this was at a gas station that worked on VWs...good ol days.
I think he's dealing with a Spyder and I think the engine has to go up, @barncobob.
If it's a Beck, I think it goes up to go out. But I'm really not the guy to ask, I've never pulled a motor on one.
I know Carey says they don't remove the clamshell either, they just tilt it back further.
Vintage with 911 fan HAS to go out the bottom. I don't remove anything on the engine except the exhaust and oil, fuel, and vent lines to pull it.
DO NOT put straps under the cylinders, you'll bend the pushrod tubes. I use a chain diagonally between two opposing exhaust studs.
If you are also removing your shroud and alternator, you could use the hole in the top of the case by the flywheel and the top front case through-bolt to hang a chain on(that's my FV method) 
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It is a Spyder I have owned it since 2005 If I went under the cylinders I certainly would go above the push rod tubes. I intend to remove all the tin and intakes and carbs. I forgot about the hole on the top of the block. I guess I will have to wait til it is all stripped down. Thanks for the suggestions.
What's your first name? And were you over at spyderclub?
AFAIK, this hole is made to lift the engine. With the flywheel/clutch in place, I believe it’s the center of gravity. Take all the ancillaries off and put a shackle through the hole.
@DannyP posted:If you are also removing your shroud and alternator, you could use the hole in the top of the case by the flywheel and the top front case through-bolt to hang a chain on(that's my FV method).
Heathen! That’s exactly what shackles are made for. And they distribute the weight 100% vertically! 
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Yes I was at Spyderclub my first name is Ray I miss Spyderclub
The shackle is a great idea I think I can get it out now
IIRC, on a Beck you have to remove the pulley as well in order to get the clearance between the engine and torsion bar tube to clear the input shaft on the trans, but an email to Carey is certainly in order. It might just be you can’t take the engine out separately from the trans. It might just be necessary to undo the trans mount so the whole kit ‘n caboodle can be tilted up enough to clear the torsion tube.
I believe the trans has to be loosened so it can pivot around the axles. The front pulley usually needs a puller so I am no certain how I could get it off. I will talk to Cary
@beck688 posted:I believe the trans has to be loosened so it can pivot around the axles. The front pulley usually needs a puller so I am no certain how I could get it off. I will talk to Cary
No puller needed. Just leave your ratchet attached when you bump your starter while adjusting your valves. DAMHIK.
Obviously, you've never done any actual engine removal.
The hole by the flywheel AND the hole in the trans case were used by the factory to put the motor and trans into the pan.
The engine alone will not balance off one point. That's why I use the FRONT MOST CASE THROUGH BOLT as well as the hole in the rear by the flywheel. You can call me heathen all you want. I guarantee I've done more work on this stuff than you can imagine. I don't need to stoop to name calling. Even with the emoji to denote you're "kidding".
Hey, Ray. I miss spyderclub too. I must confess I don't miss administrating it...
@DannyP posted:Obviously, you've never done any actual engine removal.
The hole by the flywheel AND the hole in the trans case were used by the factory to put the motor and trans into the pan.
The engine alone will not balance off one point. That's why I use the FRONT MOST CASE THROUGH BOLT as well as the hole in the rear by the flywheel. You can call me heathen all you want. I guarantee I've done more work on this stuff than you can imagine. I don't need to stoop to name calling. Even with the emoji to denote you're "kidding".
Hey, Ray. I miss spyderclub too. I must confess I don't miss administrating it...
Geez, maybe it’s time to try decaf.
I put mine in (and out and in etc.) with the trans attached. I made a couple of lifting brackets to aid the effort.
The front one bolts to the fuel pump mounting flange (I removed the CB Performance blocking plate for access.
On the back I went through the bell housing. I added an L bracket to the top left bolt through the trans, next to the starter.
We used to just pull them out by hand with 2 people, rest the oil pan on the tire while switching sides, and then carry it off... but now that I'm older we do 2 "motorcycle" straps in an X from opposing upper exhaust studs, bolted to the eyelet on the strap's hook with fender washers. You can slide things around to find the balance point easily. We also do this on full turnkey engines, nothing removed except for exhaust, fuel hose, any external oil hose, throttle cable and wiring. It's a lot more tedious and requires some large angles both left to right and front to back, but it works.
Good to know I was worried that the lifting by the heads would put to much stress on the cylinders Using those stud will make it easy particularly without the tin or the intake manifolds. (the tins need repainting and the intakes need to be resealed so they are coming off anyway) I know the older thing - I am 73.
A LOT of us on here "know the older thing". 😉
I'm 73, too. But it sounds like you're all set.
I have a Speedster, so it goes out the bottom on a motorcycle jack, then I get my motorcycle-racing neighbor to come over and help me get it up onto the engine stand.
We just lift it by the exhaust pipes (I leave the header system attached) and jiggle it into the stand, so I guess you can feel OK about lifting it by the heads - I've been doing it that way since 1964. Haven't bent anything yet......