which one is better 2110 or 2332

Hi guys, I'm ready to order my new JPS, but need some help.

I would like to hear some opinions from the people that already have and use these cars and JPS engines.

I'm between the 2110 and the 2332 engine, what are you guys think it

GV,

I think the most important issue is who will build your engine. I think Serrano builds most of the JPS engines and unless you specify exactly what you want built into the engine, you may be disappointed. I think a well built 2110 from someone like CB or Scat would get you 140 HP with no trouble and should be reliable. Just follow the makers advice on how to use it.

Chico Performance is a great builder too. His website is:

http://www.steelbuggin.com/

Bruce,

You said that Serrano builds most of the JPS engines, it

Several things to consider. The first and foremost is how are you going to cool the engine??? More cubic centimeter displacement means more heat. More heat means less engine longevity. Auxillary oil coolers with fans "help" as does an increased oil supply (full flow system with externally mounted oil filter (1 quart) an external oil cooler working in conjunction with the dog house cooler is probably good for at least 1 quart of oil, a deep engine sump varies between 1.5 and 3 quarts. (depends on your ground clearance) The stock engine holds 3 quarts. As the oil cools, it aids in the transfer of heat away from the cylinders and helps to cool internal moving parts. Fresh air is blown across the cylinder and cylinde head cooling fins to keep them cool. (Thats the extent of your cooling system) I've seen where owners have done some ingenious metal fabrication to scoop up clean air from beneath their cars and direct it towards the fan intake with great success.

In my opinion, the 2110 is more durable than a 2332, especially since both will be contained within a hot engine compartment.

VW engine 101,, Most, if all VW big displacement engines start life as if they were a stock 1,600 cc VW.. The case and the heads have to be machined to accept larger parts. Stock engines had 85.5mm pistons and a 69mm crank shaft stroke.

The 2332 consist of 94mm pistons and a 84mm crank. The 2110 engine has 90.5 mm pistons and a 82mm crank. It's obvious to see that the cylinder heads, cylinder deck and internals will have to be machined more than the 2110 to accomodate the larger parts and rotaing mass.

As more material is removed, the case and heads become weaker and with less metal, comes less heat dissapation. Also as more torque/horsepower are produced, more heat is produced.

Constant cylinder head temperature and oil pressure/temperature monitoring is critical to a large displacement engine. Especially in a closed engine compartment.

Both engines will live for some time but you have to make up your mind based on facts rather than emotion.

GV,

Serrano builds an OK engine but unless you specify which components you want, heads, cam, carbs, exhaust, etc, you will get an OK engine but nothing special. I had an Serrano 1776 in mine but have recently switched to a built 2110 made by a local VW shop up here in Oregon. He used Scat parts and it came out great. It easily doubled the HP of the 1776 and has a lot of nice things in it. My old 1776 had stock heads, mild cam etc and was only about 75 HP or so, far from the 95 advertised. If you are interested in looking at my engine builders web site for more info goggle "Volks Academy". You may find this too far from FL but it would not be far for Dan to ship it down to JPS for installation. Good luck and know you are excited about your new car. JPS puts a great paint job and interior in the car for the money.

Bruce

Larry,
Thanks for your help that make a lot of sense.

Bruce,
I check "Volks Academy" it sounds like a very good choice, but I don

Before you tell JPS that you want to use your own engine, call them and get a price for that exact engine (no installation just the cost of the engine) Next, go to www.samba.com and find out how much Serrano charges for the engine if you placed an order with him. (That will tell you how much profit JPS is making)
You'll be able to subtract that amount from the build and they should NOT charge you to install the engine.

Listen to what Larry is saying; stay with 90.5 mm cylinders; you'll be alright. A 2110 is a great engine; don't forget to check out the link I gave you before. Chico Performance is top notch in the business; I've heard that Serrano just assembles parts whereas Chico is an engine builder.

Gracias, Ricardo I'll check CHICO Engines

All of the ad's in The Samba show Chico's address as Monrovia CA. however I know that he builds his engines at German Auto Parts in Montclair, CA. I was just there a few days ago purchasing parts.

He doesn't answer his e-mail so:
If you want to get in touch with him, call him at (909) 624-6979

By the way, he does build a fine engine.