Wide-Body Speedster For Sale

Stunning. Someone is going to get a beautiful car.

I love the interior. The exterior color is spot on.

How did the owner get to use year of mfg plates on his Speedster, I thought the way CA DMV laws were that he wouldn't be able to do that legally? Just curious?

 

Beautiful car!

If the pan is a 56, he can use that plate. The plate is 56 Yom, even though it reads 57. I have a Yom plate on my speedster. I installed it last year, so I know the program is still in effect.

The other possibility is that he could be just running the plate for show.

Great looking car! (for a fat chick...)

Any more info? engine specs? tire sizes? What does it have for brakes?

Very nice car, but 180 hp is very unlikely.

Probably more closer to 150.

Love that leather!

 

You might be right, Ron; let's hear what's in it.

It has been years since I licensed a project car in CA while living there in the early '90's. The DMV at the time was very strict in it's use of license plates. I had to jump through a lot of hoops to get a '31 Model A sedan street rod I built, inspected, titled and licensed and more hoops and fees to be allowed to run YOM plates...never did do that just ran the plates anyway.

 

 

So today if your Speedster body is based on a vintage VW frame/pan and is SPCNS titled will the DMV allow it 'collector status' ? thus allowing you to run YOM plates, or does the car not have to be 'collector status' just body style like a '56-'57 Speedster?.

 

CO DMV only allows YOM plates IF your vehicle is registered as a 'collector car' first. I was lucky here CO in bringing the Cobra here as it had originally been licensed and titled as a ' '65 NAF Shelby roadster' in both AZ where it was re-built and in WA where we lived before returning to CO had it not been previously titled and licensed as such it would have been titled as year of build...so it now has CO collector plates. The '55 Chevy and the '56 F-100 both met the CO DMV rules for 'collector status' so there was no problem with them.

G.R., you asked:

 

"So today if your Speedster body is based on a vintage VW frame/pan and is SPCNS titled will the DMV allow it 'collector status' ? thus allowing you to run YOM plates, or does the car not have to be 'collector status' just body style like a '56-'57 Speedster?."

 

The short answer is, "No.".  SPCNS vehicles and replica cars do not qualify for YOM plates based on what they represent. This comes from the CA DMV:   ath:/dmv_content_en/dmv/pubs/reg_hdbk/ch21/ch21_36" target="_blank">https://www.dmv.ca.gov/portal/...eg_hdbk/ch21/ch21_36

 

SPCNS cars especially don't qualify as the chassis has been constructed of new materials and although donor parts such as the axles, motor, trans, etc. may have been used the vehicle will not have a VIN number from an old car.  It gets a SPCNS registration number once inspected by the DMV. A pan based car has the pan from the donor car and that part has a VIN number associated to it.

 

In order to use YOM plates on a replica vehicle a major component of the vehicle with the VIN has to be included in the build. So for instance, my VS built Speedster has a 1960 pan so I can legally use a yellow background black lettered/numbered plate with a 1960 sticker affixed to it or I can use a black background yellow numbered/lettered plate.

 

Based on the DMV's limited description on their website in order to legally use a 1956 yellow background black numbered/lettered plate with a 1957 sticker affixed to it on a replica car the pan would have to be a 1957 pan and the plate could have to have a 1957 sticker attached to it.  You would need two plates in serviceable condition with one of them having a legible 1957 sticker affixed to it.

 

There may be another way around this but i don't know what it is.

 

This guy is in the business of selling some very expensive YOM plates and his website is very helpful also:

 

http://www.oldplateguy.com/YOM...fornia-Vehicles.html

Year of the pan makes no difference. In CA, replica speedsters are supposed to be registered as SPCN. All SPCN vehicles are ineligible for CA YOM plates.

My 2001 built Vintage Speedster was built with a 1960 VW pan and is registered as a 1960 Volkswagen. All VS built Speedsters use a VW pan and have the VIN number stamped on the reard of the tunnel and are registered as the year of the original Volkswagen. In California a Beck would be registered as SPCNS vehicle because it does not use a VW pan and does not have a VIN number associated with it. You would have to have it inspected by the CA DMV and you would be assigned a SPCNS number. 

 

When I bought my 2001 built VS and took it to the DMV they didnt even look at it. They simply registered it to me in my name as a 1960 VW.

 

Nice! Your car  fees must be dirt cheap, as well as insurance

But what's it worth if it's wrecked or stolen?

Its registered through American Modern Ins. as a 1957 Porsche Speedster Replica with an agreed value policy of $30,000. That cost me less than $400 for the year. Registration in CA is based on the price of the vehicle so based on what I paid for it used my registration is about $200 per year. But alas, all vehicle registrations in CA are expensive. 

Sorry for the thread drift.  This also explains that the DMV does not need to see the car, just your pink slip. 

 

http://www.ply33.com/Misc/yom

Robert's explanation and experiences match what I've done with my car. Mine came with ugly standard 90s issue white plates and standard blue letters. Because my donor pan is a 67, I can use plates with a black field and yellow letters/numbers. The plates must have a 1967 sticker on one of them. I found such a set on eBay for $200.00.

I took the car, the title, the plates and my bill of sale to DMV and said "I would like to register this car with these plates, and transfer the car into my name." 15 minutes later I was legally running 67 plates on my rebodied 67 bug.

If I were to build the car today I would most likely have to do the spcn process and thus be ineligible for YOM.

Ted

Continuing with the thread drift...

 

Years ago a company, licenseplates.tv, offered vintage looking plates for any state, any configuration. So several members here purchased plates appropriate for their car. In most cases the owners simply used their current plate numbers, or vanity plate configurations, and had it replicated on the "new" vintage plate. The sticky spot was that ypu couldn't have the plates mailed to California, so the plates were usually mailed to a friend in another state.

Obviously, the state got wise and cracked down as the company no longer offers the California plates. 

I'm pretty sure the widebody for sale in this thread is wearing a plate from lincenseplates.tv.

Sorry, Jim! 

Theron, please move all posts regarding the license plates to an appropriate location.

I'm sorry Jim for hi-jacking the thread RE: plates...my fault entirely.  

Then your car is improperly registered and things could get sticky for you if the police/dmv find out. You can't register a pan-based speedster in CA as a VW because it no longer visually resembles a VW.

Any more details Jim? Engine specs- cam/rockers, heads- valve sizes and porting, compression, exhaust size? Tire sizes? It looks like a very nice car.

No problem guys!~ I'm as guilty as anyone for thread drift. Its all part of the process of learning new stuff as you're looking at a car that's for sale! 

 

For more car/engine details, interested buyers should contact Derek at Derek@FishBonzGrill.com

*sigh*

THIS is the reason I try and stay off this site (and more particularly, this page).

 

Beautiful car, makes me kick myself for not being MORE patient in my search....(though not at all remorseful, in case my current car reads this...)

 

 

What a beautiful example... Simply gorgeous! That interior is just screaming. Are you interested in trades? I have an 1984 911 Wide body RSR Tribute... 

Yan - contact Derek at Derek@FishBonzGrill.com

 

It wouldn't hurt to ask Derek about a trade. 

Well, OK, now I know why the car is on the block.  This is such a nice ride.  Everything about it is gorgeous: seats, paint, engine, pedals, and those wheels -- OMG.  And low mileage.  Looks like it is priced about right, given all of that.