Widebody or Super Widebody, They Are Not the Same.

Troy, I wouldn't doubt you set a personal high with this sale. Prices have gone certifiably nutz

@WNGD posted:

Troy, I wouldn't doubt you set a personal high with this sale. Prices have gone certifiably nutz

This one is the only Super Widebody in the world with a Subaru engine, I expect a lot of interest.

@Troy Sloan posted:

Many newbies do not realize there is a difference between the flared versions of Speedsters, because at first glance it can be very suttle.  Basically, there are three different versions of flared Speedsters.

Two of those versions were made and sold by Vintage Speedsters.  A mild flared version typically referred to as a Widebody and a wider version typically referred to as a Super Widebody.

The third version was made by Classic Motor Carriages (CMC) and FiberFab and was marketed as the California model, but is also frequently referred to as a Widebody.

Unless you have been looking at these cars for awhile it can be difficult to distinguish the difference, but they are different.

The flared Speedster I will be selling at auction in March is a Super Widebody version and you can see pictures, video and all the details on my website, www.replicaspeedsters.com

Troy

So is this informational Troy, or a commercial?

Does Vintage Motorcars of California offer a widebody?

Yes, Greg at Vintage Motorcars of California owns the molds for the Vintage Speedsters Widebody and Super Widebody, but he has only built a few of them.  Most buyers are looking for the traditional style Speedster.

JPS also has built Widebody and Super Widebody Speedsters, but they bought the bodies from Vintage Speedsters.

And I have one of the rare Intermeccanica Slim Widebodies. 

Thanks for the clarification.

BTW - Your Super Widebody is beautiful and I hope to buy/build an electric version sometime in the future with that exact styling.

For those who are interested in electric, I think Chesil has the lead over Beck and Intermeccanica based on the YouTube video below.

Chesil's Electric Speedster (Coming in 2022!):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJGefHz2HqM

Note: At the 13:30 mark, you will see their chassis which is awesome! This does not use a Hyper 9 motor coupled to a VW transmission.

@Panhandle Bob posted:

So is this informational Troy, or a commercial?

Yeah, I was waiting for music to play.

Call it an Infomercial if you want but the information has value to newbies if they have questions.

I prefer the old CMC California style myself; I got hooked on them in the 1980's when CMC had cars advertising at some airports. The wheelwells are not that big that you need carriage-like diameter wheels on them. I find they look out of proportion; just my humble opinion, of course.

Troy,

I haven't been on this site long, but you appear to be the widebody Jedi Master.

I called Vintage Speedsters yesterday and they said they only have one widebody and only sale turn-key cars. They also stated that they don't sale their Speedster bodies to anyone else.

Vintage Motorcars does have both widebody and super widebody versions (see below). Did you mean to say that JPS gets their bodies from Vintage Motorcars?

Regardless, I'm trying to figure out how wide the widebody and super widebody Speedster are from fender lip to fender lip in the front and rear.

@SJarvis

Sorry, it is confusing because Vintage Speedsters was sold and moved to Arizona in 2018.  Prior to that, they controlled the molds for the two widebody versions and JPS bought widebody cars from Vintage Speedsters. After the sale of Vintage Speedsters in 2018, Vintage Motorcars of California Inc. acquired control of the molds.

You can't just stretch a tape across the car to get the measurements you want, but I'll see what I can do.

Thanks

I think I would make a "caliper" out of a stick of 1" X 2" wood.  Hang over the car and clamp the two vertical sticks to the horizontal one  when and where they touch the edge of the fender well. Remove as an assembly and accurately measure that marked distance..............Bruce

Drop a plumb bob(piece of string and a nut?) from the fender edge and mark it with tape on the floor. Move car, measure.

Stoopid easy, no need to make anything.

@DannyP posted:

Drop a plumb bob(piece of string and a nut?) from the fender edge and mark it with tape on the floor. Move car, measure.

I'd use a 4 ft level (mostly because I've got at least 4 of them floating around), but yeah: ^ that.

Me too, but not everyone has a bevy of tools.

@SJarvis

70 3/4" at rear and 69 1/2" at front.  Accomplished with a floor jack handle on one side, a push broom handle on the other side and a level.

Attached photo makes the handles appear tilted out, but they were not.

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@DannyP posted:

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Drop a plumb bob(piece of string and a nut?) from the fender edge and mark it with tape on the floor. Move car, measure.

Stoopid easy, no need to make anything.

Bob's your uncle.

Fixed it.

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That's awesome Troy! I assume this is a super widebody?

Yes, it's a Super Widebody.

Thank you kind sir.