windscreen header locating jugs (for the softop)

Hi All,
I have just purchased a widebody speedy that came with a top and hood bows but that's all. I have a header with two catches for the top but my windscreen has no locating points for the hood. Is this normal-in other words is it up to the owner to make these and if so does anyone have experience in doing this ?
I don't want to crack the windscreen trying to lever the alloy frame away from the glass.
Anyone?
(Header should read "lugs" not "jugs")

Thanks,
Phillip

Remove the upper windshield frame then secure the frame into a padded vise and gently tap on a piece of oak strip on the inside of the frame to make a slight bump to accept the top fastener clip, take your time and it will turn out right.

Do I need to remove the glass from the frame first ?

Oh yeah.......

I've also had good luck with two people and four electrical (wide jaw) pliers. Done several frames that way.

Wrap the plier jaws with tape (duct or electrical) for protection, then, hold the two pliers to the outside of the bend area fast while moving the two on the inside of the bend area. A couple of attempts should do it and it will look just like those already there.

Alternatively, you could use a really wide jaw plier (1-1/2" to 2" for the inner (bend) location and separate electrical pliers for the outside (stationary) locations.

gn

"We" all assume the Apal uses the same header clip as most of the Speedster replica (which catches on a bent flange in the windshield trim). On CMCs and suspect most of the others the bent flange is factory done on either side (some like to add a third clip to one side of center though). Isn't it beck that uses a clip attached to the windshield with rivets and a corresponding clip on the header (which doesn't require bending the trim)?

Yup, the Beck system is a dead ringer for the original. Works great, but makes it near impossible to add a third latch in the center.

All this talk about tops makes me think I should try driving with my top up for the first time...on a nice day, so I know what to expect on a bad day. I don't have high hopes for either day.

When I have a lot of ground to cover (like driving to Carlisle) I keep the top up to reduce wind and sunburn. It's actually a bit noisier, but it can be quite comfortable otherwise. If it's even just a little cool I will put the side windows in and open the popout vents for a really comfortable trip. I recommend making some windows along the lines of mine for better visibility and all-season usability.

Yes, Lane. I liked what I saw of your side windows while at Carlisle. I'd like to see more details of them if you had such reference in photos and details of materials etc. You being my main Beck mentor (other than Carey, of course) and all. When you've got a moment...if you have such reference, it would be appreciated...as you know, I like pictures: drewek.rich@charter.net
BTW, I like your new black bomber, I mean bimmer.

My windshield frame also doesn't have the deformations for the latches to grab.

The latches are Camloc. I found what they call strikes that are made for the latches to grab.

They are currently available in chrome and stainless.

They previously were made in aluminum and I found some of those.

The image looks bad but is OK when you click it.

When I installed a third latch close to the middle of the windshield
the catch made it's own bend in the windshield frame. I staered by just clipping the latch to the edge of the frame and over time it made a nice "catch" where the clip attaches.

The CMC build manual shows three windshield latches---that middle one that didn't come on my VS--just one at the left and one at the right. The third latch makes a world of difference along with better sealing rubber. I don't get a single drop of water in the strongest rain with this improvement.

My older IM never had deformation in the windshield top chrome trim and I needed a third latch to prevent rain coming in at high speed. There was no easy way to attach additional latches to the U shaped front bow so I simply made up a C shaped clip. When raising the roof I just attach the outer latches and grasp the center of the bow with one hand and snap this little, cheap clip with the other hand. It works fine and can be made in five minutes. Pic should be attached.

Can you show me a picture of it attached? I could also use some instructions in how to make the clip.

Vintage Speedsters has a third latch header bow that incorporates a tension knob and flat stock latch that hooks around the upper end of the mirror rod, a simple solution that works well. ~Alan

that is a great idea Alan

Alan--is that new? I don't have one on my VS.

Yes it's new I got this one 2 months ago

Curious --- Is that on a cam where it pulls in on the mirror rod when tightened - or do you unscrew and refasten it around the rod?

You swing the flat stock pc with the notch cut into it around the top of the mirror rod and tighten the knob.

In my case with the 58 D windshield and top ,,Id like to add a third latch. but i dont want to risk cracking a noher windshield to get it.

Im still pondering a diffent solution. that uses a real 356 latch.. like whats on it..