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My harness is a creation of fishing line and barbed wire... Ok, so it's not that haywire, but it's so hacked. My local aircooled shop said he could put the harness in for around $500 in labor. My question is this... He can modify a VW harness, or I can just buy the VS harness. I want to eliminate the IFR 27 gauge dash to an original look of the 3 gauge setup. Is the VS harness designed as just a chassis harness or is it complete from engine harness, steering column, and dash? I figured now is the time to fix the dash holes and go 3 gauges.  This is a winter project, but I'm going to gather up the stuff so it'll be an easy deal. Thanks guys!
1956 CMC(Speedster)
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"Easy" as long as you understand electrical basics...i.e how to correctly wire a bulb, switch and fuse that to a power source.

For the beginner, each time you do a few connections ...CHECK... that it works correctly and if a problem arises it can be found in those few previous steps. Doesn't hurt to have help on the first adventure. If this still baffles you then cough up the $500 as that isn't such a  bad deal. ~Alan

I have only installed car radios, MSD boxes etc. I understand relays, and why they are there, but not exactly how to implement them if I were to start from scratch. On CMC cars, how is the main harness run? I left a message with vs last week about what all their harness "wires". Wonder if Carey wants my business? Mango, you are tempting me man!
Originally Posted by Gremlinx:
I have only installed car radios, MSD boxes etc. I understand relays, and why they are there, but not exactly how to implement them if I were to start from scratch. On CMC cars, how is the main harness run? I left a message with vs last week about what all their harness "wires". Wonder if Carey wants my business? Mango, you are tempting me man!

every car is different.  i ran my first harness down the drivers side, then the harness in the pictures above is on my passengers side.  it doesnt matter.

 

do it

 

do it

 

do it

 

before you pull the plug and buy a VS harness (only to replace the fuse box, etc) - look into the hot rod ones out there.  the wires are literally labelled ever 5" and are colour coded.  it's pretty easy.  only difficult concepts are to split the one wire into two or three (for brake lights), adding relays, etc.

 

seriously - look into it.  it'd be a waste to buy a harness only to cut off the brain and be left with unlabelled wires that are bound with crimp / electricians tape anyway (i think).

I'm torn, here.

 

On one hand, the VS harness is already cut to length for everything (including the gauges), but you'll potentially be replacing the fuse panel as it's really old school.

 

On the other hand, you could get a complete VW modular wiring kit from www.watsons-streetworks.com, like their VW-WK for $350 which would give you an easy wiring interface and modern fuses, flasher and a few relays plus all the coded wiring, but you would have to fabricate your own harnesses to the front and rear.

 

Or, if you want to build a hybrid system, call the folks at Watsons Streetworks (tech line:  860-859-0513 ) and tell them what you're up to and see if you can buy JUST the fuse/relay panel (it has screw-in wire connections, rather than a crimp system) although the $350 price tag is pretty reasonable in my book.

 

Hope this helps a bit.

 

Gordon

The Speedstah guy from Grafton

The VS box that is on mine had the wire incerts wth the screw you tighen down  to hoils each wire.  Not nice!!!   I soldered  the wires on to it..  and thats not easy.

 I cut a slot inside the trunk the size of the fuse surface  and flipped it over so you can slimply open the trunk to check the fuses . Nicer fuse boxes are out there..  Like Streetworks or American Autowire offers. Also Amercan autowire has the packard style connectors that are as nice as factory Vw.. Exspecive but worth it.. to do  a factory looking job..  make sure your wiring guy has this info so he can get good parts.. to do a custom job .. I've never bought a streeworks harness so i can't say yea or ney . Stop and do some home work first  Get a VS wireing Diagram from Mr Duncan at VS  even if you don.t use his harness..  Pick the fuse box  that had good connection mountings  that wont come lose. Do run a 10 gauge black wire from both the rear frame ends to the dash and another to the 2 front bumper brackets   have them meet at the steering colum support and ground there . 

Yeah, I went the nutso-extravagant route and used a fuse/relay panel from a Stirling.  I would only recommend this to someone who is seriouslyconsidering flogging him/herself about their life decisions.  I ended up getting a few boxes of new fuse box terminations (they used several different ones, depending on location/usage) and a settable, crimp-limiting crimping tool and went at it.  In the end, I probably spent more than just getting a purpose-built harness the way I wanted it, but what the hell ....It was only money back then.

 

I did have the forethought to mount the panel in the trunk, but that has its own problems, too.  At least it all works and doesn't seem to give me any troubles.

 

Gn

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