X!@&% idle jet holders!

JayCee Idle Jet Holders

Click the link. Order 2. Thank me later.

Jet Dr.

Click on this one, buy 2 to bring down the per item shipping cost. Mixed results on these, but if this is a chronic problem, I'd not hesitate to give them a try.

You're welcome.

Or get several and donate the extras to the Carlisle raffle!

Spendin' other folks' money: just one of the many services we provide here.

Funny, guys. Spending other people's money is fun, isn't it? Yeah, I still don't know why the carbs are oriented that way!

I don't think they would have to be. Just send them out to Art Thraen's guy Dave (now Black Line Racing), and get them reversed.

Now we're REALLY spending other guys' money.

Thanks Stan, but I forgot to mention that I replaced the holders with Allen idle jet holders from JayCee

Working contorted and blind with an Allen head wrench has got to be easier than trying to fit a blade screwdriver into that slot. 

Carl do you know if those fit the weber knock offs that empi makes and did you have to buy a specific size?

Spend someone else s money? OK! Someone here mentioned a while back that there are manifolds (possibly Cip1)that mount the carbs the other way around for easier access.

I'm not familar with 'Empi Knockoffs'...Hell, I'm not even familar with the Weber 44's that I have in spite of spending a pretty penny for the totally incomprehensible Weber Tech Manual by Bob Tomlinson!

The Allen idle jet holders that I installed from JayCee (#7351) states ''Fits all IDF Carbs'' So if Empi is true to form by copying stroke for stroke than these Allen holders should fit their carbs too. But, the 'go-to-person for this information would be Danny Piperato.

You hit on a pet peeve of mine, Carl. The highly touted Tomlinson carburetor "bibles" are worthless even as scrap paper. Written by an illiterate surfer, they contain precious few actual tips or diagrams. What is included is often just plain wrong-- gems such as, "There's only one thing you need to know about air correction jets: 180 is always right".

Always. Turbo 2332, stone stock 1600, mexicrate 1914-- it's all good in the "180-airs" hood. Ridiculous.

Cb Performance makes the "space saver" maifolds that turn the carbs around, and also lower them slightly. Carl, I am no expert on any carbs except my own! I do like to tinker with other people's though. I am with Stan, I would bet those JayCee holders would fit all IDF type carbs.

The puzzling aftermath of pulling out the idle jets only to discover that they didn't need cleaning is the fact that the car is now running smoother with out burping and popping at idle or hesitating on acceleration... Why? It's curious and I simply don't know for sure.

The only thing I can think of is that I thought I lost the tiny rubber sealing donut off #2 holder. Searched the nooks and crannys where it might have fallen but couldn't find it. Happened to have something very similar as a replacement that worked fine... But now I'm convinced that the rubber donut was never there! They fit very tightly over the threads...almost impossible for them to simply fall off.

That jet holder was firmly screwed in, but what's the possibility of its missing sealing donut having been the cause of ragged idling and hesitant acceleration?...and if so, why?   

I just took off my idle jets to see what size they are and will be replacing the .52 with .55 which what I a, reading is how they should have been done in the first place with dual carbs.  But the ones I took off did not have any o ring...I have the empi40 idf weber knock offs.

Lots of times the O-ring stays inside the carb body. They are a very necessary thing, hope you find them!

Without being able to see them is there a way to get them out?

The idle jet/holder can be used to bring the O-ring out. Be careful, finesse is required here.

The o-ring is there to keep air from being introduced into the passageway from the outside. Without it, the air/fuel mixture is no longer properly metered, is lean and produces the symptoms you described. Al

I have occasionally had to use a small hooked tool that seems to have been designed for that purpose.  A mirror helps, too.

A toothpick on occasion. Ditto on the mirror, flashlight as well.

Good idea.  A toothpick is less likely to damage the O-ring.